Interviews at Warped Tour (Part 1) - Podcast 28

Howdy, this is Andrew from Against Me, and you're listening to Sound Scene Revolution. Enjoy.

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I've got to say, I'm glad that last week has passed. It is so much cooler now this week than last week. It's got to be, it's like in the mid-70s. It's fantastic. A rainbow was out this morning. I mean, I'm walking around in shorts and a shirt. It's not too hot, it's not too cool, and gas has dropped to, you know, $1.70 a gallon. It's great. It's a good time to be alive in America. So, on behalf of all that good news, we have decided to bring you Warped Tour interviews from our experience on Warped Tour. Because these are Warped Tour interviews, and bands on Warped Tour have a lot of issues with merch and shit. We aren't doing any new contests this week, but we are running the Theo and the Skyscrapers contest to win one of two copies of their debut album.

If you guys want to learn how to enter to win, go back to last week's and listen to the very end, you know, the standard email, name, address. But there's a question you've got to address, and I'm not going to tell you what it is now, because you ain't getting out that easy, you cheap bastard. But if you listen to last week's, we'll tell you how to win. So, very first thing this week is we have an interview with Against Me, but not the entire band of Against Me. We have an interview with Andrew, who plays bass, has a beard, used to have kind of shaggy hair. Now he's got a shaved, kind of buzz cut with a beard that's longer than his buzz cut, so it's kind of fucking weird looking. He has disproportion, but he's a good looking man.

And we get interrupted halfway through, I believe it's Vinny from Less Than Jake, I don't remember, but some dude from Less Than Jake comes over and starts dancing half-assed naked in front of us. It's kind of cool, but, you know, it comes with a job. But that's going to be the first half of our interview, and then we've got a second half of our interview with another surprise band, who, if you've read the site, you probably know. But fuck it. So, before we jump into our interview with Andrew from Against Me, we are going to play a track off of their latest album, not their live one, because we did not get a copy of that, because we are not that special. From their album, Searching for a Form of Clarity, we are going to play the track Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners, because that's how I roll.

I don't know about you, that's how I get down. So, I hope you enjoy the song, I hope you enjoy the interview, and be sure to come back for the second half of the interviews, and more music and bands and free shit. So, check it out.

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So, what's up, the Sound Scene Revolution, I'm standing out in the front area of the Warped Tour, I guess? In the heat. In the heat, yeah, with, uh... Oh, that's a nice breeze. Yeah, that is nice, I'm sorry, let me give you some... Does that, does that translate to... Yeah, wind here. Breeze on the microphone. Probably. Oh, yeah. We're here with, uh, I'm sorry, Andrew. Andrew. Andrew, thank you, I was totally going to blank on that, from Against Me. Totally fine. Hello, nice to see you today. You too. So, uh, I guess first off, how's the tour been treating you guys thus far? Uh, pretty good, we've never, ever done anything like this before, so... It's strange, we've never been in a bus before. Oh, wow, you guys got a bus?

Yeah, which is... That's gotta be nice. Well, it's crazy, because I usually drive during the morning, like, everybody sleeps in the van, and I'll drive from, like, 8 in the morning till 2, do the first shift. Yeah.

I feel kind of worthless. So you're, like, just sitting there, and you're like, I should drive, but... Well, something, I mean, like, all I do all day is just play bass, and I know, apparently, that's what, you know... Musicians do. If you're a musician, you do, but there's so much more to it than that, and it seems like I'm not doing that. I mean, fuck it, there's catering, and, like... You don't gotta go out for food or any of that. Yeah, three square day is not a normality, so... It's good, though, I like it, it's kind of, it's summer campy, I know a bunch of people probably said that, but... Oh, yeah. It's... But it's gotta be nice. Extreme summer camp. Extreme, you got skateboards. For 28-year-olds. Ah!

Because no one has to drive. True. If you do that. I don't know. Well, we kind of get away with that all the time. Our tour guy, Jordan... Yeah. I don't call him a tour manager. If I did, I'd call him a tour mismanager. But he's the guy you met. Yeah, yeah. Wonderful guy. Today's his birthday. Oh, is it? Happy birthday, Jordan. Oh. But he usually just drives at night. Oh, yeah. So we usually, I usually have some drinks at night anyways, so... You guys get drunk and just berate him as he would attempt to drive? No, no. We just pass out in the car. Oh, just pass. Yeah. It's probably a pretty peaceful drive for Jordan. Oh, it is. Right on. So how long have you guys been on the tour, though? We're doing the whole thing. It started, I believe, June 13th or 14th outside of Baltimore.

And it's gonna go hotel. Any idea? August 13th. Last show in Montreal. So it's like a two-month ordeal. Yeah. Complete two months. That's gonna be huge. Yeah, we're not even to the month mark yet. Yeah, no, huh? Well, you guys, you did one earlier this year for the fat tour, right? We did... Like a huge... A 50-state tour. It ended up... Smoker Fire... It was against me. The Epoxies, the Soviets, and Smoker Fire. Yeah. We'll just put it this way. Smoker Fire is the only band that made it all the way with us. Oh, my God. We knew we were gonna make it, but... You're like, come hell or high water, you're making it. Yeah, and that's not talking bad about the Soviets or the Epoxies, but they, near the end, we kind of ended in the Northeast.

Yeah. And we had some... A Toronto show, I believe, was the last show. Yeah. And man, we... Everyone was haggard as hell by then, dude. We'll just put it that way. It was like, what, 56 cities or something like that? No, no, 50 states. Yeah, but... You hit, like, a couple of cities. Like, in California, you know, we played San Diego, L.A., Frisco. Yeah, two shows at Slims. Yeah, so... But we played Alaska and Hawaii, so that was the... That's gotta be cool. Is that your first time in Alaska? Yep. Wow. First time. How was it? Or Hawaii, yeah. Oh, it's amazing. Do they have, like, electricity and shit? Oh, dude. I hope this doesn't go to Alaska. It's on the internet, it won't. I mean... Dude, oh, another double whammy. They have the internet in Alaska.

Alaskans just don't like our show. They have taste, so... They're alright. They're good kids. Now you're dissing yourself, shit. No, Alaska played the University of Alaska in Anchorage, you know, in, like, the common area, you know, kind of the common area of a university. 750 kids showed up, and it was insane. That's amazing. And then we played Hawaii in Honolulu at the Pipeline, like, huge club, maybe, you know, 800 capacity, like, 100 people showed up. Are you kidding me? So, right now, Alaska's... Checkmate, Alaska. Alaska wins right now. I'm sorry, Hawaii. The states that aren't the lower 48, Alaska's taking it right now. That's good, though. Yeah, yeah. Outside the continental U.S., Alaska. That's insane.

But we haven't been to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico yet, so... No, that'll... I heard San Juan can rock. We will find out in due time. So, I want to talk about, you guys got a live album coming out, right? It's Americans Abroad, is that what it's called? That's us. Now, how did that come about? Was it something you guys had kind of planned on, or you just had the recordings? Kind of just... Well, it kind of just happened. We're going to put out another record on Phat, and they agreed to do a live record. And basically, I don't know, like, we were going to do it in Ireland, but it's actually a good thing that we did it in London, because the London show was really crazy, and the Dublin show was good, but it was nowhere...

Like, it would have been a very... It would have not have been the best live record you could have put out. I picture Irish people being much more drunk and just rowdy than, like, enjoyable. It's true, but London's such a big city that, you know... I mean, Dublin's a big city, too, but... London's huge, comparatively. It was a good time. Probably about, like, 800, 900 people crammed into a club called the Mean Fiddler, and... That's insane. I happen to have the flu, but I still... I was nervous about it, but I was like, you know when you're really sick, and you just... But you got to do it, and you just say, fuck it. And, like, just drink a big thing of whiskey, and go out on stage, and you're sick as shit, but you just got to do it.

Dude, have you heard less than Jake? What a bunch of dicks. Oh. I'm sorry. Ouch. We'll settle this in GoldenEye. Uh-oh. We don't play video games. I just think we have... Do you want to play soon?

I got stuff to do. I know you don't have to work out. Oh. Oh, sorry. That's good. Are less than Jake in against me getting into it in the middle of our interview? Yeah, we're getting into it. These aren't cameras. These are microphones. We can't pick that up.

Buddy from Less Than Jake. Get the camera. Where's your camera? Buddy from Less Than Jake dancing. He's gone. Oh. He's there. You had your chance. Dancing around. Buddy from Gainesville, Florida. He lives right behind Gainesville High School. He has a photo in his house. Just see how long we can keep him doing this. He's literally... There'll be photos on the site. Born every dollar. She shook her head. She just shook her head at you.

I don't care what happens the rest of the day. Hey, this is all we could really... Yeah, dude. This is all we could really hope. He's a very nice guy. He has a nice pool at his house. Does he? I've been swimming in it. Is that where you go and swim in his pool? Yeah, he's... They're from Gainesville. Oh, yeah, yeah. He lives three-minute bike ride from me. Oh, wow. Right on. Very nice, guys. Excellent. What's funny is we've hung out with Les and Jake more on this tour than we have at home. You have and you live within three minutes of each other. Well, we're both on tour all the time, so it never works up. I always see him at the bar that my wife bartends at. That's about it. Well, that's not a bad way to be up. Gainesville.

Common meeting place. A bar. Who would have thought? Really, at Gainesville, I would have been like rec center, gym. But the bar. Let me show the racquetball court, dog. But the bar, really? No, no, they don't serve alcohol there. Uh-uh. Eh, well, you get it where you can, I suppose. Anyhow, I want to talk... You guys signed with Sire, I guess? How is... I know I talked to Tom like three years ago when you guys first signed to Fab before the album even came out, and he said there was a lot of ridiculous backlash. Oh, yeah, big time. How has it been for this? I mean, has it been worse, or has it been kind of people like whatever? It's been actually hilarious in the fact that people gave us so much shit for going to fat.

Yeah. I mean, this has all been... We've said it many times before, but it's what happened. We got our tires, slash, all kinds of shit. Yeah. Like, you fucking sell out, blah, blah, blah. We signed to Sire, and I know people are talking shit, but I actually haven't heard any. Really? Like, no one's come up to you and been like, fuck you! No, no. Oh, oh, by the way, no one will ever come up to your face and say that, because everyone feels much braver on a keyboard. Yeah, on the internet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, I don't have to actually own up to this, so fuck you, I hope you die in a plane crash. I feel like I should say it now, just to be like, see, I'll say it to your face, but I like you. You've been nice to me, so I'll accept it.

But so far, nothing really, other than some random internet shit? No, I mean, well, that's what's funny, is a bunch of people, like, I've read it in some magazines and stuff, being like, oh, you know, it seems like they're going to alienate their fan base with this. Be like, dude, we alienate our fan base every day. Yeah, on a daily basis. So, we're on the Warped Tour. Yeah. Like, we alienated them by doing this, we alienated them by going to fat, we alienated them by making a video, we alienated people by fucking playing electric guitars. So, we do what we do, we love what we do, we love each other, and fucking, we have a good time, so. Yeah, do you ever feel like, I don't know, the more I read about you guys, the more I feel it's like your fans hold you up to these weird expectations that maybe you never set up, but like, in their mind.

No, no, no, never. Never, no, we've never, we would never set up, you know, we're four normal people who just fucking, hi, how are you? No, keep talking. Okay. But now I'm nervous. Go ahead. But now I have an audience, what was I talking about? I know, you were talking about how you're just four normal people. We're four normal people. Who do interviews? She's out of here now.

I honestly have no idea. Who was that? Yeah, I don't know. You don't know, she just, wow. Is she behind me? It's kind of, no, no, she's going to the medical tent, I guess. Behind somebody else. That's what it's like being famous, just women. Shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Here, can you hear my wedding band click on the microphone? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to start like, I want to be like, slow down. No, no, no, she trusts me because she knows. She'll kill you. Oh, and goddamn straight she would. I'm glad for it. I mean, yeah, back to the point. Really, we're just normal people. We like to play music together and hang out. And this is kind of, like, this whole thing is just a big gamble. You know, it's like a crapshoot.

So, I mean, we want to go for it. And if that's a bad thing, don't buy the record. Yeah. I mean, it's not like we're politicians or anything. Like, just don't. It's very easy for you to say, I don't like you. And, okay, don't listen to it. I don't know. People feel they need to force their opinions on everyone else. I agree, but I was that person once, so I cannot get mad at anyone. So, I was the, you know, I was a, not being ageist, but I was an 18-year-old asshole being like, why the fuck they do that? Fucking sellouts. And now I'm in that spot. And you know, like, it kind of makes a little more sense to you. Well, it makes complete sense, but it makes me think back to when I was younger and just be like, man, I was a fucking dick.

So. If there's one thing you could say to your 18-year-old self, it'd be like, don't be a dick. No, well, I would say, instead of complaining, why don't, you know, fucking go do something. Yeah. Yeah. Complaining. Everybody's a critic, man. Unfortunately, that's not good. Since the beginning of time. Exactly. Well, I think we're going to wrap this up because you probably got a busy day ahead of you. See if you can get to the Oakland. And I'll quit gabbing. No, no. The more you talk, the better. The longer we talk, people are like, they just wish we would shut the fuck up. All right, Malwin, thank you so much, Andrew. Thank you, sir. We have a great time. The sound of the handshake. The high five. The high five. There we go.

I think they got that.

Sussing Revolution bringing you the second half of our Warped Tour interviews. So that just wrapped up our interview with Andrew of Against Me, who in like eight months is going to be too famous to talk to us and he'll like piss on us. We'll move from the top of his tour bus from his piss, which will be made mostly of Cristal. So I'll be looking forward to that in the future. But anyhow, our next interview is with a band who will probably never make a lot of money for various reasons. But we got Jake from The Casualties, who you guys may know. They're on BYO Records. They got a new album coming out soon. So you may want to check. Oh, shit. They're not on BYO. They're on Side One Dummy. But it's cool. They're on Side One Dummy Records.

They got a new album coming out. I just got so comfortable today because it's nice and cool and comfortable that I forgot what I was doing. So they got a new album coming out on Side One Dummy. So check that out. And yeah, but before we get into our little thing with Jake from The Casualties, we got one last track coming up from Against Me. We're going to play Holy Shit off of their album, searching for a form of clarity. Mostly because I'm stoked on the fact that there's a song named Holy Shit. And then we will jump into our interview with Jake and we'll close it all out with a Casualties track. But not before I get my rant in about Warped Tour at the end of our show today. So be sure to check it out.

This is Jake from The Casualties right after we play Holy Shit from Against Me.

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Thanks for tuning in to Sound Scene Revolution. We are here at the, I think it's the front area actually of the Warped Tour, but it's the backstage area, I guess. And we're with Jake from The Casualties, right? Yes, sir. I'm glad I got your name in it. Cool. That's 80% of the battle. So first off, I guess, how has the tour been for you guys thus far? It's been, like Warped Tour is really like one of the best summer things for the band. Because we get in front of, like, it's great because, you know, we get in front of a lot of new kids, a lot of kids that never heard of the band before, you know. We do all these, like, nightclub tours and, you know, like George the other day asked the crowd, he said, how many of you guys, is this your first time seeing the band?

And tons of people went, yeah, you know, because, and it was weird because it's L.A. Like, we figured everybody already saw us there and knows us there, you know. And so, yeah, it's like, it's great for that. You get in front of people that are either going to be totally new fans of the band or decide they don't like the band, you know. So it works out great. That's cool. Now, has it been hard at all? How long have you guys been on? Have you been on since it started thus far? Been on the Warped Tour for the beginning of this one this year? Yeah, this year. Yeah. Oh, we've been on the whole thing. We do, we try to do it, like, I mean, if we have a record coming out or something out, like a DVD or something, we try to do it every other year.

Yeah, yeah. You know? I don't know. Has it been hard at all? Just like, because it's such a vast tour. I mean, you guys, it goes all over America. Has that been hard? Yeah, it's difficult. You know, we actually bought an RV this year. Uh-huh. Instead of going on a bus. On a bus, yeah. And the bus was nice, but it would drop us off at the poorhouse, you know? Oh, yeah. Like, you would just break even, you know, and not come home with any bucks. Exactly. And, you know, I got, like, you know, some bills to pay at home, so I got to come home with a little bit of money, you know? Yeah, it's nice if at the end of the tour, you're not in debt with everything. Yeah, yeah, but we've already had some problems with the RV, so we've made, we've made, we've played every show so far, so.

That's cool. As long as you can make every show, I think that's good. Yeah, it's working out. We got enough friends that if something like that happens, we'll jump on the bus with the Bouncing Souls or Anti-Flag for a night, you know? That's cool. Yeah, you guys actually, you did a tour with Anti-Flag earlier this year, right? That's correct, yeah. Is this, like, coming here, is it just, like, seeing everyone who you've toured with throughout the years and just kind of hanging out, or? Yeah, it's cool, because, like, we just went on tour with them and got to be better. We were friends for, like, a long time since the early 90s with those guys, but when you tour with somebody, you get that, you get, like, more, like, family.

You get more, like, you know, than just being a good acquaintance, you know? Like, you really get to figure people out, and it's great being friends with those guys, you know, and those guys are stand-up guys and good people. That's cool, man. One of the things I want to ask you is, I heard it, and I'm not real up-to-date on it, but I was told you guys were going to be re-recording your last album. I think it was in Spanish as well, or has that happened already? We did do that already. That came out, like, maybe a year ago. Okay, yeah. Yeah, no, it's cool. We'll just pretend I knew that. It was, we did the album in English, and then George went and did it in Spanish as well at the same time. And we released in Spanish, and we went and did a tour in Mexico, and that came out on DVD.

And we just wanted to, like, have a Spanish release, a full Spanish release to come out and just, just to, like, you know, sort of, for something different, you know? To our knowledge, no one ever did that, you know? That was, like, our kind of punk rock. That was cool. We thought that would be pretty cool to do, you know? Yeah, how was the tour in Mexico? Was it, like, is it, how does it compare to the States-wise? Um, you know what? It's crazy down there. Yeah. It's, like, totally, like, off the wall, like, you know, like, there's a lot of, a lot of good, great people that would give you the shirt off their back, you know? And then there's, like, some people that just hate you that, like, and as you can see on the DVD, there's, like, some people that are just haters, and they just, they think the band, like, if we're going down there and you make any money, that you're capitalist scum.

Um, and it's like, dude, we're, we didn't come back with Mexico with any money, you know? Yeah. Like, we just went down there, did two weeks, two and a half weeks, and it was fucking wild, you know? It was completely different. As soon as you cross that border, completely different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm, I'm saying, like, that's just the, the landscape and the environment, you know, it's different. And, like, uh, the people down there, they're great, though, and the shows are awesome. Um, a lot of people are supportive, but, like, like I said, the ones that hate you really hate you. It's silly, you know? It's just, it's pretty much, you know, those kind of, it's, like, lack of education. It's like, you know, you go down there, you're not, like, you're just going to play for these guys.

You know, if they didn't like, they don't like you, you know, they don't have to pay that money to get into the show. You don't got to pay to come in. You can just, you know? Yeah. Is it, how's it compared to here? Because I know, like, everyone I talk to here about, like, America, they're like, if people dislike you, they, it tends to be more of a message board thing. Yeah. Like, you can find a lot of people on the internet. Is that kind of how you guys find it around here? Like? Yeah, I mean, like, you know what? There's, it's funny. There's, like, there's, uh, chat groups, right, on MySpace and stuff. And there's ones that are, like, there'll be, like, a casualties group. Yeah. And then there'll be an anti-casualties group.

But in each group, you have people from both sides. Yeah. So it's silly, you know? Yeah. But, uh, whatever. Any, any, uh, any publicity is good publicity as far as I'm concerned, you know? Pretty much. As long as you guys get out there, it probably helps. You guys, uh, just talking about touring and all that, have you had a place that's probably your favorite place to go play or anything like that? Uh, you know, I would say our home away from home would be L.A. Like, any of it, Southern California. Yeah. It's always been kind of the pinnacle of all our tours. Yeah. Whenever we go on the road and we're on a U.S. tour, when we go through, like, but, you know, it's slowly that's been changing. Like, L.A. is always going to be awesome.

Yeah. But now we've noticed Texas is fucking great. Texas? And Florida's awesome. That's awesome. For the casualties. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, you know, it could have a lot of things to do with George being Spanish. Yeah. Or Ecuadorian, you know? Like, a lot of kids will back that, you know? And, uh, but also, like, this form of punk. Like, there's maybe not a lot of bands doing, like, the total hardcore punk thing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. How do you guys, I mean, you guys, in my opinion, I don't know what you guys would classify, but you guys are, like, real old school. Like, kind of just straightforward, kind of honest music. And, I mean, as you look around, I mean, even at Warped Tour, I don't want to say, like, name names or be mean to anybody.

But, like, there's a lot of bands that are kind of, like, they seem like they're more into just, like, a weird sort of image than, like, the music. And I don't know, do you guys, like, relate to that at all? Like, do you guys, how do, I don't know, how does that feel, like, the new music coming out from other bands? Yeah, I mean, I could see, you know, our thing is always, for the casualties, we definitely emulate an older school of punk rock, you know? But that's just because that's what everybody in the band likes. But, like, I mean, you have four guys that are interested in the same type of music. But then also, the next thing is that, like, our thing's always kind of been we look it, live it, and love it, you know?

It's like, yeah, we go on stage like that, but we're also, like, that off stage and at our homes. It's not like you guys get off stage and put on dockers. No, yeah, it's like, it's not a costume, you know? And so that's kind of always been our thing, you know? And I, do I think some bands concentrate on image more than their music? Possibly. But, I mean, I'm sure there's people out there saying the same about us, you know, that don't know us and things like that. So, I mean, I don't, if a band has an image, I don't necessarily look down upon that. I think that's kind of cool. You know, the Clash had that, the Addicts have that. Yeah, the Addicts definitely have that. Yeah, I feel that some bands go for the emo swoosh a little bit too much, you know?

I see that a lot, you know? And some dudes, some dudes look a little more like chicks now, but maybe that's what sells records in that genre. Yeah, yeah. You know, that emo and that kind of style of music, it's not something I know much about, you know? Yeah, you guys got your thing. I feel like we're surrounded by it, but, like, we like it because we feel like we're sort of, like, the sore thumb in the crowd on that one, you know? Yeah, now are you guys playing main stage on that? Yeah, we are. It's first year for that. Oh, wow. So, we're stoked because it's like a dream, you know? It's the kind of thing where, like, we started off on the Maurice stage, which is now the Hurley stage, and that was always cool, you know?

We always felt we kind of owned that one. And then, you know, here we are on main stage, and we did the first few shows, and we're like, oh, any minute they're going to put us on the small one. Yeah. And then we found out we're playing it the whole time, and it was, like, a great moment to feel that because it's, like, a sense of accomplishment. Oh, yeah. Like, wow, we're here now, you know? Yeah, like, you've earned it, you've come up. Exactly. That's got to be really cool. Now, is there, do they announce, like, the lineups, like, way ahead of time? Do you know where you're going to be playing, say, in two weeks? Like, or do they just kind of give you a rough idea? Um, they don't, like, as far as you're talking about lineups of bands?

Well, yeah, like, you're going to be playing at 11 o'clock, three weeks from now in Seattle or some shit. No, you know what it is? It's different every day. Seriously? And what I think is cool about that is, like, no band's too good to play first or last. And, uh, you know, obviously you're not going to have no effects playing first or Joan Jett. Yeah. But it's kind of cool, like, that the other bands, there's a sense of, like, okay, check your ego at the door. You know, nobody's, like, too cool, you know? Yeah. And, uh, you know, yeah, we've played first a couple times. We've also, like, I like the time slot between two and four. That's my favorite time. Right on. And, uh, you know what? Like, that, it's, like, different every day, so I think it keeps everybody on their toes.

Oh, yeah. You don't get to show up too drunk in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Or too late, you know, like. You may have to play in ten minutes and you won't be ready. Exactly, yeah. That's excellent. Uh, just real quick, you guys got, uh, anything, any plans after this? Anything you guys are going to be working with? Anything like that? Um, right after this, right, like, directly, I think the Warped Tour ends August 14th. August 22nd is the release of our new album. Yeah. Under Attack. And that comes out, you know, uh, that day. Oh, wow. And we, that, we're already, uh, like, a few days before that. I think we have a day, one day off after Warped Tour. And we fly to the West Coast. Oh, my God. Do eight shows, fly back, then the album comes out, fly back, do like a few shows on the East Coast.

And then we have two or three days off, we do a whole Canadian tour. Oh, my God. Then come down, then we start a U.S. tour in Seattle, come down. And when we hit L.A., we fly to Japan, we do ten shows there. Oh, my God. On the way back, we hit Hawaii, and then we fly back to L.A., and then we finish out the U.S. tour. And at this point, you'll all be 55 years old. Yeah, exactly. How long is that? Right after, or we'll look it, we'll look it at least. Yeah, I'm sure after that period of time. You guys are going to? Right after that, we go to Europe. Oh, my God, dude. And then it's, like, already the holidays. Yeah. Jesus. So we're on tour a ridiculous amount. Seriously. And then I think in 07, we go down to South America.

Wow. That'll be cool. Yeah, so. Have you been to Japan before? We've been to Japan, uh, 98, to, 98 we went, and then we went again in 2004, and then we went again in 2005. Oh, yeah. So we're going, we've been going a little more lately, you know? Is it good, like, to people? It's fucking awesome. I hear it's, like, a whole other world in Japan. Like, I hear, like, before you get started, before they come out, like, everyone's, like, really quiet, and then, like, they just kind of go off. It goes off. And you know what's cool about that is that's why we put that on the DVD, like, the two, like, cultures that are exactly the opposite. Oh, yeah. Like, in Mexico, you gotta, like, fucking, you gotta worry about your life, you know?

Yeah, yeah. Then in Japan, it's like, if you leave your wallet somewhere, it'll still be there. Yeah. Like, the guy will save it for you, you know? That's cool. So it's, like, that's why we put that on the DVD, like, these two opposites. Oh, yeah. You know? But the punk rockers, same type of people. Yeah. The world around, you know? Awesome, man. Yeah, our cultures are a little different, you know? Yeah. But other than that... Once you get beyond that, and the language barrier, it's basically the same kind of, like, type of, you know, good people. Cool, cool. So the album's coming out on the 26th? Yeah, 22nd. August 22nd, under attack. Dude, I'm fucking this much up. We're just gonna go through and re-edit it so it sounds like I know what I'm saying.

Well, that's fine, yeah. But, uh, 22nd, how are you guys feeling about that? Great. I mean, it's like, it's technically our sixth studio release. Oh, wow. The first three records were on really, like, DIY, like, really small punk rock labels. Yeah. You know? And we started doing albums in 97. So, like, the first three. Then we hooked up with Side One Dummy for the last two. Die Hards came out and then On The Front Line, and then this one will be our third one for Side One. Yeah. So it feels almost like it's our third album. Yeah. For, like, a bigger... Yeah, because it's, like, real official type album. Totally. You know? It's like, our records can be found in, like, Best Buy now. Yeah. That's gotta be weird, huh?

It's weird, but it's great for the distribution, you know? Definitely. For the band, it's great, you know? I see why some people are like, oh, that's not punk rock, you know? Yeah. Because, you know, our records aren't, like, in basement distros anymore. Yeah. Well, maybe they are, but, like, it's not, like... Yeah, it's not solely where they're from. Yeah, it's not solely where they're from. Whereas it used to be that way, you know? And, you know, some people, like, are against that, you know? But that's, like, I always felt like that was a ghetto mentality. Oh, yeah. If you could get better at something, that you should get out of the ghetto. You know, don't stay down, you know? Like, we're not changing who we are, you know?

Yeah. But, you know what I mean? So... Well, that's the thing. I mean, you got kids in Wisconsin who don't have indie stores, or they don't, you know... Exactly. It's too much work for them to do mail order and shit. So it's really nice for that kid, if he's into your band, to be able to go down to Best Buy and pick up your CD. Totally, yeah. And hopefully he will. Yep, yep. That's where we're going. We never, we never, as a band, as the Cattle Seas, we never, ever had a problem with being, you know, with distribution. Like, we never thought, oh, it's not punk to be in this store or whatever, you know? Yeah. There's way more important things, I think, to worry about than who's going to sell your CD. Exactly. I mean, if your message is important, you know, and, you know, like, kids can act, if some kid in the middle of Iowa can get into punk rock, our kind of punk rock, I mean, like, why not?

Like, you know, it's... Why act like that's a bad thing, you know? Yeah, totally. So we're pretty happy with things right now. Awesome, awesome. Perfect. Well, I want to thank you so much for taking the time. No problem. And hopefully the rest of the tour goes well for you, man. All right, buddy. All right, thanks. Cool.

All right, so that wraps up our interview with Jake from The Casualties. He was a good guy. Kind of rolled with the questions. I fucked up a little bit, but he was cool with it. So regardless of what you think of The Casualties, Jake, good guy. Take that. So before we go, we're going to wrap it up with one last track from The Casualties. We're going to play Unknown Soldier off their last album on the front line. They got a new album coming out, but we're not really important enough to get an advanced copy. So you will have to deal with listening to their old shit. Deal with it. Now, we do not have a new contest coming up this week, but we will be rerunning the Theo and the Skyscrapers contest for another week.

That means you can win one of two copies of their debut album. Listen to last week's broadcast to learn to enter to win. And just, you know, the last portion where I give out the rules, like the last 10 minutes max. Maybe the last eight minutes, even. So check that out. And yeah. Before we go, I want to say, to get to Warped Tour, Sound Guy, Nariman, and myself rode the train from the South Bay and the Peninsula up to San Francisco. And two things. One, the first train got to San Francisco at 1140. The first band that would be against me hit the stage at 1030 fucking five. Way to go on that one, Warped Tour. Before mass transit could even get there, you open up the fucking show. Slick. You fucking bastards.

So as a result, we didn't see the show. So Andrew felt like really bad. So I want to say, I'm sorry, Andrew, from against me. I hope you will forgive us and the mass transit system. Secondly, upon riding the train, we were grouped with large amounts of teenagers who were not able to drive. If you ever have the chance to hang out with a bunch of 14-year-olds, pass on that. Because I have found a large percentage of Americans' youth are dipshits. There was a dude on the train who was like, talking about he got to go see Fall Out Boy like two years ago, but he made sure to note it was before they got popular. So congratulations, you had shitty taste way before anybody else. Must be fucking big. It makes me worry about today's youth, but at least they were at Warped Tour.

Maybe they saw a band that wasn't under oath and they developed some musical taste, but chances are they were fucking too busy at the Monster tent or the MySpace tent trying to find fucking Tom or something. But that's how it is. I'm old. I'm stagnant. I don't like kids. So if you're 13, don't instant message me and be like, oh my god, ups the punks. I don't want to fucking hear it. Just enjoy Warped Tour. If you're on the train and you're taking the train to Warped Tour, just shut up. Shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to hear what you've got to say. Your friends don't like you. They don't want you to say shit. Just fucking shut up. And enjoy the ride. So with that, we're going to play Unknown Soldier by the Casualties.

I'm going to enjoy this phenomenal mid-70s weather and fucking jump in my pool of gold coins like fucking Scrooge McDuck and enjoy life because that's how we do it in the Bay Area. And if you don't know, you should come down. It's the shit. See you all next week. See you all next week.

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