Interview with The Weakerthans - Podcast 68

Posted by Rich on November 13, 2007

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Holy god! Has it really been three months? No it hasn't, actually. Two maybe. Anyhow, after what seems like forever and ever the mediocre hobgoblin of media has returned with more apathy than ever! With no new contests this week, we can only recommend you listen because your life is remarkably boring without us.

So here's this week show where we talk with a dude from The Weakerthans. They're Canadian and write catchy songs about cats, curling and dudes named Gump who don't run but skate (crazy ass backwards Canada). They also manage to be a group of pretty rad dudes. Oh yeah, and some fuzzy bastard from Punknews drops in and basically doesn't do shit.

Enjoy the show and be sure to come back next week where we answer the burning questions, who won the Bomb the Music Industry! contest? And, who is Sound Guy Nariman's baby daddy? Until then, send us something at SoundSceneRevolution@gmail.com, on MySpace or the comments section. Enjoy, and remember Dog The Bounty Hunter wants to be buried with George Washington's slaves.
-Rich

Transcript (auto-generated, may contain errors; songs left out)

Hi, this is Stephen Carroll of The Weaker Thans. You're listening to Sound Scene Revolution on the World Wide Web.

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It feels like it's been a long time since I've done this, but actually I only did this about two seconds ago, but Sound Guy and Airman forgot to fucking record me. So now I have to say the whole thing again and act like it was original, which is hard because I am just, I mean, these ideas, they flow to me like water through an aqueduct of ancient Rome. So anyhow, we're back after a little while break. It took a little bit longer than we thought because, well, there was a hang-up with we're really fucking lazy. And Sound Guy and Airman got the Millennium Falcon Lego Edition, and that's really, it took all my effort to drag him away from that. And I actually had to stab him in the legs so he couldn't run back.

But we're here, and we're excited. So thanks for waiting. If you waited, if you're new to the show, first rule of Sound Scene Revolution is don't talk about Sound Scene Revolution. The second rule is don't listen to the interwebs. So we have an interview with, I still don't know his name. He's one of the guys from the Weaker Thins. We'll call him Dave. Dave. It's totally not Dave. He's one of the guys from the Weaker Thins, and we have Justin from Punk News there. No prizes to give away this week. We're sorry. I know we were gone for like two months, and we don't have anything to give you. But send us an email and tell us what you want, and we'll write that on a piece of paper and put it in the wish jar, and maybe one day you'll get something without actually having to work for it.

Or maybe you can get off your ass and buy stuff on your own. I don't know. Maybe the wish jar will work. Bitch.

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Sound Scene Revolution in the lovely basement dressing room, I guess, of Slim's with Stephen from the Weaker Thins. So, hello. Hi. Thanks for taking the time to join us. In the basement. In the basement. Is that... When I found out it was going to be in the basement, I was like, dude, totally. Well, you know, where else? Upstairs, outside, in the alley. The outside ones? We have all of those. They're in the rain? Yeah. We have all those, but we picked the basement. Oh, by the way, Justin from punknews.org is also joining us. Yes, I am. After a day and a half of a death-defying bike accident. I did get hit by a car on Monday. Yeah. You look good for it, though. Yeah. You don't look good. I have to hide all my scars from the little kids at work.

So, like, some of them saw, like, I had this horrible road rash on my arm. And they're like, oh, my God, what happened? I'm like, uh, I fell down. I'm not going to be like, I was riding my bike without a helmet on a main street of town. I got hit by a car. I ran into a door. You know, it happens. I got hit from behind. This is the second time I've been hit from behind on my bike and the second hit and run. Nice. That's crazy. Yeah. I think you should stop riding a bike. But, uh, more importantly, let's talk to Steven because no one really cares about you. Oh, they do. No. No. The kids do. The kids. Well, the little kids, but not, like... The kids don't have the internet. Yeah. But, uh, so, I guess... Too much cursing.

We care. Everybody in this room cares. That's right. Yeah. But we're not going to listen to the podcast either. Oh, okay. We're about numbers. We have to... We're stats, basically. All right. So, you guys are how far into this tour that you've been doing? We are show number seven. One week. About one week and you're doing this for about another, what, two months? Yeah. Something like that? Three months. I think we're at show, 54 shows, and we're at show 48 to go or something. We're at 46 to go. This is quite an undertaking. You don't normally tour like this, do you? No. We normally stay home and watch TV like everybody else. I don't know what's happened here. You got a new album out, I guess. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. That's what I've heard.

That's the word. It's true. We do. So, now we're just following it around the world. I guess the choice was either like shredded banging off before Christmas or like start touring in crappy months, like going to Europe and Germany in January is not an exciting proposition. It's like, you know? Nice and icy over there. It just gets really gray and kind of dreary and you never... Playing rock clubs, you barely see the sun at all to begin with. And in the winter, it's even worse there. So, it's kind of like Portland with German accents a little bit. Yeah. And a Reinheitsgebot, the beer law. The beer law? The beer purity law, yeah. The German beers are all brewed with a beer purity law. They can only be brewed with like four ingredients, I believe.

Really? Yeah. Is that why they don't allow American beers in Germany? That's what I've heard. You can get Budweiser. Yeah? Yeah. It's brewed in Germany. It's brewed in Germany, yeah. Oh. Standards? Yeah, probably it's... Does it still taste like piss water? Do we know? No, but I know that the... I don't know about that because we never drink it, but I know that the checklist vacuum version of Budweiser over there is one of the best beers in the world. Like the original Bud Bar. Really? Yeah, it's been amazing. Yeah. It's the original Budweiser apparently. Really? But it's just been watered down for the American audience? I think so, yeah. You know? That's depressing. It's good. You know, it's got its moments though. In a can?

In a can. Cold? A tall can. In a game of beer pong? In your car. Whoa, did I say that? No, sorry. Well, if you're in New Orleans... You can do that? You can have an open container in the car as long as it has a lid and a straw. And you're not driving. A straw. A straw, eh? Yeah. So it makes you get right drunk. Yeah. So you don't look down to like... Right. I think it's a straw. It doesn't obscure your vision of the road. That's sensible. Yeah. I learned that when I was in New Orleans. I always drink my beer. They just want to embarrass you a little bit. They're feeling that will deter people. They're like, really? No one likes to drink it. You look like kind of a sissy. Does it count if you put like a cap on your beer pong?

I don't... You know, that's a good question. I'm not sure. That's a beer pong is kind of a large straw. It's a big straw, yeah. I was down there for work, so we didn't test all that out. Just the open containers in the cars. Work, you say? I was. All right. Last year when I worked for Habitat. Building houses for homeless people. They weren't homeless. They just didn't have houses. What? They're hopeful. They're hopeful. They were future homes. Anyways. Anyhow. All right. So, saying a week of the tour. The new album came out... How long ago? I'm totally blanking. Tuesday, September 25th. And we are October 4th. Last week. Came out last week. I'm... My facts are coming right out. So, the album is about almost four years in the making, is it?

Yes. Three years? Four years? Four years of weight... Four years between records. Yeah. I don't know if we were making that record the whole time, I gotta say. I don't think we were. I would imagine. To be frank, I'm gonna confess right here. Now, was there a particular reason that it took so long to come together? I think there were several reasons. I think that some... It took a while for some of these songs to come together and for us to really like them. And I think after working pretty intensively since forming as a band, it kind of was time for a little respite to take a little bit of time away from the intensity of the tours and of being in a band. But it's weird. Like, it is four years since the last record, but it doesn't feel like that for us because we toured for two years for the record.

Yeah. And we had kind of a slow year where we didn't do that many shows. Like, we went to Europe and played around Canada and stuff. It's kind of stayed close to home. And then we started working on the process of actually making this record and getting it to the point of being in people's hands nine months ago. So, like, this whole year since we started working on actually producing this record in January. So, you know, it's been kind of really... It feels not like for a gap for us. It feels a delay. Like, there was one extra year. Like, we always take three years between records. And I think that's just part of our process, too, is that John is really meticulous about the lyrics. And, you know, until he gives this set, comes back to the jam space and says, that song you remember from three years ago that we jammed on once and we worked it all out?

Yeah, it's done now. Like, what song? No, you remember the one time with the guitar card? Come on! Yeah, I was like, no idea. Okay, find the demos. That's cool. So, now, what prompted the name of the album, the Reunion Tour? Well, it's named after a song on the record. Oh, yeah. It was the one song that thematically encapsulated all of the songs on the record. Wow. That's a pretty good reason to name it, then. Yeah, I guess we always look for that. You know, a song title that can be once part of the record and it can sort of give people an indication of the themes present on the record. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Now, this record, I don't know because I don't really, I'm not that good at listening to music, but people tell me it's your most Canadian record to date.

It seems to have, like, the most feel of being from Canada. A lot of Canadiana. Yeah, it has a lot of Canadian references. Well, there's Bigfoot. Yeah. There's a Winnipeg bus driver. There's, I think, the most Canadian song perhaps ever written. There's a song about curling. Yeah. About a despondent curler who's finding his way through his world, coming undone during a curling match. And so those three are really the most, like, those three are the ones that have the most Canadian in it. Well, there's also, I'm blanking on the name, too. Oh, and the Gump Worsley. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I was like, that's pretty Canadian. Yeah. Well, he played for the Minnesota North Stars. Yeah. But he was originally from Canada, was he not?

Yes. Yeah. Well, most hockey players are. So, yes, yes, absolutely. Well. They're a hockey, I would imagine he's kind of one of those people that Canadians know a little more about. Sort of. Not that famous. He's kind of a bit of an... He has a Wikipedia entry. He has, well... That's how I found out. He's kind of an obscure, you know, he's a hockey legend for a certain generation whose careers aren't always at the tips of people's tongues. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Huevos Rancheros also wrote a song about him. About Gump Worsley? Yeah. No way. Yeah. My... One of the other editors, Adam, is from Canada. Yeah. Huge fan of both bands. Yeah. And he was like, they'll never believe this. And I was like, oh, I don't know who that is.

Yeah. I was like, oh, they both have songs about... They're from Calgary, right? Yeah, I think so. I'll have to look that up. I think it's an instrumental track. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, it doesn't really count if it has words. Right. It doesn't have words. But it's about... I mean, how often are there songs written about Canadian hockey players? That's right. According to the Wikipedia entry, those are the only two. And Wikipedia is edited by people. It's always right. It's always been... Except when he says that Ian McKay is past. It's always accurate. Yeah. The internet doesn't lie. No. Everything we're telling is true. For the most part. Except the whole thing about Ian McKay being dead and everything else. Did you hear about that horrible rumor?

No. Somebody spread a rumor around and edited the Wikipedia entry for Ian McKay and was like, Ian McKay was hit outside of a Fugazi show. People were like, oh my God. I'm like, Fugazi doesn't exist right now. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll put some things out there on this interview that we'll let people believe for a while. And we'll see how that goes. Very good. So do you have questions? Well, actually, you started asking all the questions that I told you. I have not asked all of your questions. Yeah. I asked him earlier. And I have since stolen them from him. Okay. Well, actually, I have a question. So you said that John's really meticulous about the lyrics, but also the music I know, like Utilities, you guys have been playing for a little while now, haven't you?

It's like five years. Five years. Messing around with it. At what point, like, you know, five years, that means that it was around during Reconstructional Site, you just decide, okay, time for an album now. Yeah. I guess what happened was it didn't really fit in Reconstructional Site. We actually had too many songs for that record. And the tempo wasn't right for the record. And we already had songs in a similar tonality and stuff. And I was never really satisfied with the way it turned out, the arrangements we had. And we were actually in the studio about to record it. And I turned it on its head. I said, I want to play it on pedal steel. And I'm going to do this and this. And that sort of changed the trajectory of the song.

Okay. And I guess it's sort of, it's kind of fun to reinvent the song now. After years of playing it like that, it's sort of new again. And we actually don't know how to play it properly now. Which is kind of funny. Even though we've been playing for five years, now that we've changed it, we don't actually play it live anymore. You played it live five years ago. Professional, we're professionals. Yeah. Yeah. It's our maker living. You played it live five years ago now that you haven't recorded it on an album. Yeah, we don't know how to play it anymore. That's good. At least the kids will be able to sing along if they go back in time. That's right. You guys can just fake it at this point. I mean, come on. We probably could.

I'm not too sure, though. There's some backwards pedal steel on there that I have to, I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you how to do your job. I can't play an instrument at all, so I can let that slide. Now, do you guys, is this your full-time deal? Are you a full-time musician? Yeah, we are by the skin of our teeth. Really? Just hanging on there day to day, tour to tour. So you guys don't have mansions in the big house? Oh, we have that. Oh, yeah. This thing's got a lot of money in there. You can barely afford keeping them up? Well, I took a helicopter from the bus to the front door of the club, man. It's a long walk, too. It's a long walk. It is. There was like two or three people out there, too.

I didn't want to get harassed. Yeah, you didn't want to talk to anyone, so. No. I understand. Sometimes you just won't. Yeah. Well, John and I live in Winnipeg, and that's probably the reason we've been able to sustain ourselves, because it's a pretty cheap place to live. But Jason works quite a lot with other bands in between, and that helps him out. And we make ends meet in our way. I mean, we're still just a small, independent band. That's all we do. Hey, so we're going to... That seemed to take a long time for me as well as you, because Sound Guy and Aaron was dicking around with stuff. He's out of practice, man. It's like fucking watching a retard trying to have a doorknob. It's like riding a bike, man.

You're not supposed to forget. Of course, we're also... We've switched setups, for those of you who don't know. We're on a snazzy new portable setup, and we're running shit off of a Mac computer now, because Steve Jobs said he would give us money if we used a Mac. And we say Mac at least eight times an episode. Mac. Mac computers are great. iMac. Anyhow, that's like five, so I'll get three more in at the end there. But we're in the middle of the week of the ends. We're going to play some music. We're going to jump back into it. And Justin from Punk News is kind of... I don't want to say he's helping. Like, he's in the interview, but I mean... Like, helping is a pretty broad term to define what Justin does. He's just...

He's kind of dicking around. He's kind of riding my coattails. I mean, I guess he's kind of well-known in his own right for being a huge douchebag, but really, I mean... I'm like... I'm... I'm the important one, and he just kind of like hops around on my balls to interviews. But we're glad he's there. So, here's another song from the week of the ends, and then we're going to go back into the interview. Enjoy it.

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I'm trying to remember, was the last album Reconstructed Sight, was that released solely on Epitaph, or was that also an Epitaph anti-deal? That was solely on Epitaph in North America, then it was like on Burning Heart in Europe. It's just like a sister label to them. And now it's like kind of a split release. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, they're all technically under the same umbrella. Yeah, it's all it's... Yeah, I guess they just decided to slap the anti-name on there, because... I don't know. I think it makes more sense for us to be there for this record, probably, than the last record did. I don't know. For them, it's... For them, I think they see us fitting on both labels, and I think that's why they did it.

Like, they see us... I think we, in my mind, we make sense of their record label. And I know that last night, when they all came out, they're like, Yeah, you're the one band that we all agree on on the label. That's good, though. Yeah. Yeah, because everybody, you know, they cut through some of the... Because, you know, Epitaph and Ante were at least a wide swath of different styles of music. Yeah. And I guess we're sort of the middle, the unifying entity that they... So... I guess... Finally, there's peace between the two labels, so... I don't want to say any of the other bands, because I don't want to get on anyone's bad side to be listening, but... Oh, right. It's good that you guys are the unifying band.

Okay. I can support that. What's it like working with Epitaph? I mean... It's cool. It's cool. Are they hands-off, or... They're really hands-off, or we're just, like, really self-sufficient. I don't know. I can't... Like, we just kind of... We've always just done the things the way we do. Like, we make videos with our buddies in Winnipeg. We've done our first video, and we, like, choose who does our album are, and we choose who does our producer, and then we tell the record label what's happening. It's like, you know, they ask along the way, and they're always ready to have input, but... I don't know. It's sort of our decision-making process is so internal within the band, like, we just kind of generate everything from within ourselves about the direction of the band in our career and what our plans are.

And the label's always, you know, very enthusiastic when we present them with our ideas, and really supportive, and we really enjoy the experience. And on the other hand, I know that if we ever need anything, I feel like they're there for us, you know? Right. Yeah. I think it's a geographic thing. A lot of their bands are, like, L.A. and Las Vegas-based, so it's real easy to keep an eye on them. You guys are way the hell out there. Yeah, we're out there in Winnipeg. I know. I'm not going to that cold-ass place. The weaker-thens need anything, they'll call. I'm going to get frostbite if you even call that town out there. Not to mention, it's just expensive. They do have an Epitaph office in Canada. Really?

They do. So she's kind of got her town. Is it large? It's like this room? It's about that room. The size of this room. Yeah. Two folks. But they're like an army of two. They do a lot of stuff for us. That's cool. Yeah. Now, is it, compared to, you guys have toured the entire world, is there a difference between audiences in different countries, obviously? It's mostly between cities. Really? Yeah. Cities generally have behavioral traits. Yeah. And it's very typical. I mean, you find, like, you play Winnipeg. For years, while I was playing the Winnipeg, you just hear, you know, people, you know, we had fans there. They would come out. The shows would be full. And then just polite applause, you know, just quiet chatting.

It's just like, oh, it's disconcerting. Like, somebody loosen up. And, like, we played Tempeg on the Sun this tour. And it was exactly that same vibe. It was, like, 400 people there. And you hear a pin drop. It's like, I don't know if you're having a good time. Or there's nobody even talking out there. Like, somebody say something. Like, all I can hear is my screaming guitar. You know, I say something else. Please. So, I've noticed that more than I notice differences between countries. Like, cities generally have characteristics. It's almost like stereotypes. But, in a way, it plays itself out to be kind of true. Some tastemaker cities, you know. There'll be, like, an impress me crowd. Like San Francisco? No, I don't know.

No one likes San Francisco. San Francisco is not really that. It's got kind of an eclectic personality to it. So, I think that plays out in the way the audience behaves. Okay. We'll see, though. Yeah. It interests me. It interests me because I grew up not going to shows in San Francisco. And then when I moved here, I was so stunned by the way that everybody acts. Oh, really? I feel like there's a lot of people. Are you dissing San Francisco audiences right now? I really do not like San Francisco's crowd. Yeah, for those of you who can't translate, they're both calling everyone in San Francisco assholes, right? I did not say anything bad about it. Subtly. Subtly. Well, I just said it was more of an eclectic city, and I thought it'd be a more interesting audience.

See, I just feel like everybody here is... Don't put words in my mouth. See, I feel like everybody here is, like, scenic. This is a tabloid. This is not an... This isn't a journalist enterprise. No, this isn't at all. Stephen Carroll... You've been misled. ...hates San Francisco. That's the way we're leading this out, just so you know. Whatever. Drag me down right there. It's on the internet. Yeah. It's gotta be true. This is live to the internet. So, you don't like San Francisco crowds? I don't like San Francisco crowds. Well, now, what's the difference? Just... I hate to switch... Because everybody, I feel like, stands there with their arms crossed, with their black sweatshirts on, zipped up. I'm wearing a jacket.

With their black sweatshirts zipped up, and they stand there, and they'll clap, and they may bob their head. But overall, like, I went to a Painted Black show, so they were a hardcore band-ish, you know. Pretty hardcore band. Dan Yemen takes his shirt off, pounds his chest like a monkey. And, like, people were standing there with their arms crossed, bobbing their heads, and I just didn't know how to... Wow. I just didn't know what to do. I was like, what? Was there no alcohol? No, there's lots of alcohol. I don't have an explanation. Funnily enough, oddly enough, the night before at Gilman, where there is no alcohol... It was crazy? It was crazy. There were kids on top of each other the whole time, so... Yeah, sometimes venues have a reputation.

Venues can change the atmosphere, too. Yeah. Just because people at the Gilman Street aren't afraid of hepatitis, they likely have it. Whoa. No. Calling out Gilman now, eh? I have... I do not endorse the comments. I would not endorse that either. I am not welcoming... I do. I am very much not welcoming Gilman Street as is... I don't want the tires on my car or van to get slashed. I'm not going to bash him. I don't endorse the comments or observations of the two interviewing parties in this interview. I'd like to... Did you just disclaimer on us? I think I have to put a disclaimer on this website. We'll tell everyone how nice you were. Everyone thinks we're assholes anyway. So, we'll head back to... As long as we're talking about music, we were.

We were. We were talking about different crowds. Yeah, different crowds. Some have hepatitis, apparently. Some have hepatitis, some are assholes. Some have hepatitis, some are assholes. Do you... Yeah, some are. Whoa. Can you say that on the internet?

Nah. Only on certain internets. Do you have... Only after 11. Only after 11 if you watch this. Are there... Do you prefer, like, playing live or recording? Do you have a preference on that? Like... I find... Personally, I prefer recording after playing live. Like, I'd like to work this stuff out live. I think that I play much. That's the way I process things. And I think that it gels and it works things out much better. And it's... I don't know. In the studio, it's sort of guesswork, I find. Yeah. Live, you really know if it's working or not. And the headphones, isolated, it's a little tricky to tell what's happening around you. So, I prefer playing live, especially working on new material. Yeah. And I find the studio process...

I'm not in studios very often. Mm-hmm. I find it kind of harrowing. Have you... So, you guys don't record, like, live as a band? You each track your own parts and then bring it together? Yeah. Well, I'm usually the last man in because I play lead guitar, right? I'm the most suspendable part of the enterprise. So, I have to wait and wait and wait. Can I play solo now? No. Can I play solo now? No. No. Let's repeat. Yeah. Fair enough. Hold on. I'm going to go to the stock questions on the paper now. Oh, he's gone to the stock questions. Yeah. That means he doesn't think you're interesting. No, it just means I'm drawing a blank. So, if you got one, you can go right ahead. Yeah. Well, what's... I mean, what's your recording process like?

Like, you guys... I mean, obviously, it took you a while, but... This one was a little different than the last ones. I'm just going to take a walk with this cable, because I'm supposed to play with this band that's on the stage. And I just... Well, I think they're still in this room. So, I'm going to walk over here with the microphone. Here we go. We're going to talk to Jeremy Fisher.

They're not ready. Okay. They're drinking beer wearing headbands. That's almost ready. Wait. The beers are wearing headbands? Yeah. No, they're drinking beers while wearing headbands. The beers are in the headbands, actually. Headband beer. Headband beer. Yeah, this one was a little different. We kind of usually go in and do pre-production and work everything out, and then the vote was to not even practice before we went in. Really? Yeah, just do it all in the studio. Just work it out. Just go in the process. Wow. Everything was kind of set up to make that work, though. We went into a studio in Winnipeg that was run by our sound man. It's really cheap, and we could just take the time we wanted to do whatever the hell we wanted.

And there was no hurry, no pressure. It wasn't like, this is costing $3 million a day, you know, and whatever. And it was like $300 or something, you know. It was like nothing. Yeah. So it was a great way to just relax, and it was, you know, in our hometown, and really laid back, really laid back at us here. Just to work it all out. And just to have a chance to turn things on their heads and maybe have things that don't, you know, have time to work things that don't work out, like, rather than just being under the gun and just say, everything we do here has to be immaculate and perfect. Yeah, that'd be kind of hard to do, especially after not practicing. Yeah. That wouldn't pan out right away. No. Take the tension out of the recording.

I hear it. Yeah. A lot of bands say that going into the studio, they get super nervous. Yeah, well, there's a lot of pressure because you're trying to, you know, it's all the anticipation of what you're supposed to be accomplishing every day and get in there, and it's not like that. It's super slow, and everything takes forever to figure out, and, you know, you're always waiting and going, does that part suck? Does it suck? It sucks. No, it's okay. Do you guys think it sucks? They ever come back to you, they're like, yeah, it sucks. Kind of, yeah, for sure. A little bit nicer, a little more diplomatic. Yeah, it's always, well, it's a collaborative, you know, process with us. Like, it just, like, basically, it's consensus-based, so.

Oh, wow. That could explain why it takes some time. Yeah, consensus-based decision-making takes a long time. It does. But that's good, though. It basically takes one person caving. I don't know if that's a consensus. Oh, right. No, it's a concession. That's what they've been told the entire time they've been working with us. Yeah, but it worked. Yeah. It works. It worked out. It worked out. I'm happy. I couldn't see this record. I didn't know what it was like. I kept worrying that when it came up, people were just going to hate it, because I thought there was going to be, like, this fourth record backlash or something. Is there that fourth record slump? I don't know. It seems to be going really well. I mean, we garnered, like, some great reviews, and people I know really are enjoying it, and having, like, I'm finding this, I don't know, liking the things that I like about it, in a way, so I'm quite relieved.

Very cool. Because I thought, for a while, this record sucks. Nobody's going to like it. It's going to tank. That's it. But it's true. I don't know. It was hard to see it for a while, but now that it's out and living a life of its own, it's... Yeah, it seems to be doing pretty well. It actually leaked before... Oh, yeah. 18th of August or something, it leaked. Yeah, were you worried at all about that? Yeah, we did everything we could to prevent it, but then somebody, some person in the music business posted it online. Were you worried, like, oh, people aren't going to like it, it's not going to sell? Did you hear anything about it beforehand? No, I mean, it's an interesting thing to have the leaked records that go like a weather balloon, you know, where they test the audiences in a way that, you know, you get their opinions before you really get the opinions of the critics now, which is kind of funny.

No, it was well-received by all those people that illegally downloaded it. By all those people who didn't buy the album, they seemed to like it. Oh, yeah, like the first show, we played a show on, like, the 18th or 19th of September, and then these kids were singing along with the audience to, like, this song that we'd never played live, and, you know, like, only a handful of people in the world that heard and even knew it existed. Yeah. But it was because it had just been leaked, and they, but, you know, it can't really be that mad they were singing along with it, you know. Yeah, if they show up to the shows, I guess. Yeah. It helps. I mean, it'd be great to sell records and be able to pay for recording, because it does cost a lot of money, and I think that's sort of something that's falling out of the equation here.

Everybody's like, it's great, they come to shows, it's awesome. Yeah. It's like, okay, well, now our European record label was shut down because of illegal downloads. Like, it was out of business. It's only because of Epitaph was able to absorb the record labels, and we still have a label in Europe. Yeah, in Distro in Europe. Wow. Something to think about. Yeah. All right, so I think we, yeah. I think the band's playing, too, so. Yeah, and someone's starting to play, so it's going to start to get loud. Yeah, I got up there to play the steel guitar. He's actually playing on stage right now. I'm playing right now. You are amazingly talented. So, I want to thank you. No problem. Your new album, Reunion Tour, is out right now.

Out right now. You should pick it up, and you've got the tour going on for another decade. That's right. We're going everywhere there is to go. All right. Fantastic. All right. Well, thank you for taking the time. No problem. It was fun. Ah, that wraps up the interviews this week. Thanks for coming back and listening to us. I thought it was fitting that we did a little, that we started back with the Weaker Thans, one of their new albums, Reunion Tour. And this is kind of our reunion of sorts, because we hadn't been doing shows in a long time. I mean, I've been doing things like, you know, I ate 250 shrimp in a single sitting. But, you know, nothing really podcast related. Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back next week.

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