Interview with The Playing Favorites - Podcast 71

Okay, hey, this is Joey Cape from The Plain Favorites, and you're listening to Sound Scene Revolution.

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Thanks for tuning in to Sound Scene Revolution. We are back this first week, yeah, first week of December. And we have a special interview with Joey Cape of many bands. You may know from Lagwagon, Bad Astronaut, a whole bunch of bands of that nature. But today we're interviewing him in regards to his album, or his band, The Plain Favorites. We have an album that's coming out December 4th, so it's the same day we're posting this, but I don't know if it's the same day you're listening. But, yeah, the album's called Remember When I Was Pretty, something like that. And so we're interviewing Joey in the park next to his house. And by park, I mean small area of grass, probably 10 by 10 feet, with 13 sprinklers and 15 different dog turds.

It was a good time, though. Good fun talking to Joey, and hopefully you enjoyed the interview. We have a contest at the end, I believe. I have to check the email, but I believe Virgil said we'll be giving away Virgil from Suburban Home. Maybe you've heard of him. He runs a website and a record label. It's called Suburban Home. He's pretty famous, and he talks to us because we're fucking awesome like that. Probably not to you, though. But Virgil said we'll be giving away, I think he said, three people, and each person will be getting a copy of the CD, a copy of the record, and maybe something else from Suburban Home. I have to double-check on that, but we'll let you know. But we got the interview, and so if you want to know how to enter to win, stay tuned, listen to the end, and we'll let you know.

But otherwise, listen to the interview, and before we do that, we're going to play some music by The Playing Favorites, so check that out, and we'll be right back.

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Hello. All right. Welcome to my park, people. This is Joey Cape's park. He lives here. Yeah. It's at Subtent. Things aren't going so well these days. Seen better days. But so thanks for joining us. Yeah, thanks for coming all the way out here. I appreciate it. Oh, it's no problem. I like coming to San Francisco. This is a good day to do it, too. It is, dude. It doesn't get much better than this. I'm wearing the big jacket and everything else. I know.

It's a bad move. It's a bad move. Yeah. And I got halfway down here, and I didn't have a jacket, because the temperature changes quickly, but not today, man. Look at this. Amazing. All right. God came out just for the podcast. Yeah, God. I appreciate it. I got, you know, I'll have to do something for him for that. I'll pray. I don't know. Anyhow, so we're here mostly to talk about the playing favorites, the band that you got. You got an album coming out December 4th? Yes. Yeah. Got the date. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, so I'm one for one thus far. Yeah. But so first, I guess, easiest place to start. Can you give us a little bit of the history of the band? How you guys got started? All that. Yeah, well, it's sort of the original idea happened in Japan.

I was on tour in Japan with me first in the Gimme Gimmes, and a dear old friend of mine, this guy Luke Tierney, who plays guitar in the band and sings too, he was out there with his band, and we were out drinking one night, you know, just having a good time, hanging out with this friend of ours. Her name is Junko. She kind of works in the record industry out there. And we were just talking about how fun it was to be in Japan together, you know, having grown up together, and here we are in Japan, you know, having a good time. And I think Junko actually said, you guys should do a record with Tim and Mick and Marco, you know, all your best friends, and we'll try to put it out here in Japan, and then you guys can all come back together, you know, just as an excuse to come to Japan, basically, and party, you know, fun.

And that was really it. And I think, you know, shortly after that, we started drunk dialing our friends at home in the States, you know? No idea of what time zone shift was going on. Who knows what was going on in our heads, but two years later, you know, we had a record done, which we basically recorded, it's December almost, two years ago in December 2005, we went in the studio and everybody brought songs to the table, and we basically just set up, learned a song, recorded it, learned a song, recorded it, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. More or less live, and we overdubbed later and did vocals and stuff, and basically, the only reason we didn't finish it way back then, there is no good reason. I guess everybody's busy or something, and it just took us a long time, and we weren't even sure if it was worth finishing, it was more just about fun, and, but I thought the record actually came out pretty well, so we got more serious about it and tried to kind of fix it a little bit.

Make it a little more professional. Yeah, and you know, it's still really lo-fi, and it's still got a kind of natural thing to it, but that was it, that was the idea, and for whatever reason, things just progressed, and later I spoke to Virgil at one point at Suburban Home, and he said he'd be interested in putting it out, and I don't know, now we're playing shows, and it's like, no, we have six shows or something booked. We're playing, actually, we're playing four shows in LA in early December. Wow. Yeah, we're playing, I don't know that we've announced any of the other ones, but there was one show that we got right away, which is at the Viper Room in Hollywood on the 7th, and then the next night we got a show at the Spaceland, at Spaceland in Silver Lake, and then we got a show at Chain Reaction in Anaheim the next night, and then we got offered to do an acoustic set with Angels and Airwaves in San Diego, the daytime of that show at Chain Reaction, so we're going to do four shows in three days.

So you're going to be doing an acoustic set with Angels and Airwaves? Yeah. That's an odd little pairing. Yeah, but it's great, because they're cool guys, and actually, you know, I'm not even sure if it's that odd, because this band is so pop as well, you know, I think, and when you break almost any of this kind of music down to acoustics, really, I mean, you know, if, I don't know what his name is now, but if Cat Stevens shows up, he'll probably be all right, too, you know, it'll all sound the same. But anyway, so that's basically it, and yeah, it's sort of turned into a real band. We've never rehearsed. We're rehearsing in a week. Hopefully, we'll be able to play the record. Yeah, I was going to say, because there's a lot of different parts on the record.

Yeah. Some of you guys are multi-instrumentalists. Yeah. Do you have an idea yet of what you're going to do live, or is it going to be like... It's funny. It's changed. We started out saying, okay, you know, I'm going to bring keyboards, and we'll have a few acoustics. We have three guitar players. We'll have, you know, a ton of gear on stage. Yeah. And then, and we'll cover everything, because we all know how to play the instruments. We'll switch off instruments, and we'll make it happen. Yeah. And we started devising, you know, individual plans for each song, how we were going to approach and hopefully conquer this situation. But then it quickly became kind of evident to us that we don't have a sound guy.

We have no crew. We have, you know, how exactly is that logistically going to work out when we walk into a club with a ton of gear, a little stage, you know, and a house sound guy that, in Hollywood, is most likely pretty jaded and not interested in dealing with that at all. So, we've kind of, just on the phone and discussing it, we've kind of got it down to a more bare bones version of the record. And we're going to skip all the keys and stuff and just try to make those sounds happen on guitar. And some people are playing bass on some songs, some are playing guitar. It's going to be fun. Yeah. We just want to have a good time with it, you know. I mean, if we take it too seriously, it'll become like every other thing that we do.

It'll become a job at that point. Yeah, I've got enough jobs. Yeah. I've got like three other jobs.

You've got other things that pay the bills. Barely. Exactly. No, I used to joke around and say that, you know, when the industry changed and records were sowing less, that I'd just form another band. And, you know, if one band was making half as much as it used to, two bands will make the same amount. Yeah, yeah. And in my case, four. Yeah. Well, you've got five almost. So, okay.

You're losing money on every band, but you make it up in quantity. That was the idea, but it hasn't really worked out. Somehow that plan isn't quite working. It's actually counterproductive because the reality is everybody that plays music at my level probably needs to have another job, you know, and then the band is fun. And if you're in a lot of bands and you're busy doing all that, you know, then you don't have time to, yeah, so. If you wore more makeup, some more album. Makeup? That might be it. Put that, put that, I'm sure no one's ever thought of that before. I will credit you with that when you see us. That's why we make the big money. Got the ideas. So, yeah, but I was going to touch on this later, but you're in, okay, there's Lagwagon, obviously.

Me, first thing giving you me is you're doing a solo acoustic record. Yeah. You're putting together B-sides and unfinished stuff for Bad Astronaut. Am I correct? Wow, you knew that. I read up. Wow. Yeah, I am. I'm doing all those things. And the playing favorites, I'm trying to learn how to play that record that we made. I've been rehearsing every day. I'm really not much of a guitar player, you see. That could be a problem. So that's turning out to be a bit of a learning curve. It's one thing when you play something in the studio and it's entirely different live. And in the Gimme Gimmies, there's just no consequence at all. It's just like, hey, I hit the wrong chord, all right. I think that's part of the charm, actually.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's why they have me in the band, actually. You know, because the other guys are good enough that they don't have to look, but I'm there to keep it real. You like to even it out, you know? They don't want to bring the average too high. It ruins the mystique. That's right. I could have been kicked out of that band a long time ago for many reasons, but, you know. Yeah, but yeah, so I've been really busy lately. It's a good thing. I consider myself lucky to have those things happening. Cool. Now, is there any difference in songwriting between, I mean, obviously, like, the Gimme Gimmies, everything's pre-written, you know? Lucky us. It works out well. You have some of the best songwriters in the business doing the work for you there.

It's incredible. They're so generous, too. Yeah, they are. And so kind. But, yeah, I think there's a difference. I mean, when I, the odd thing about the playing favorites, at least as far as the perspective of someone that might be into the music that I've made over the years, the odd thing about it is that I'm sure there'll be this misconception regarding me as a songwriter or a guy in that band, period, that it's sort of out of my element. But the reality is that these are the guys I grew up with, and we grew up listening to rock music in the 70s, you know, and pop music, you know, throughout the 70s and 80s and 90s even, and so that record to me was really easy to write for, and it was easy to make because it's closer to home in a lot of ways.

I mean, I am a person, I always listened to punk rock growing up as well, and I played in punk bands, but as far as Lagwagon's sound goes, it's not, it's sort of not, wasn't really like my original incarnation as a songwriter or a musician isn't really what that band sounds like. That's just more, at some point in my life, I really like this, I like this, I'm going to start writing stuff like this, and then the band has a lot to do with it as well. Every band has a lot to do with their sound, of course. So, it seems like a departure, but it's, it's, that, that may be the easiest thing that I'm doing, and the acoustic thing is, is really no different than, because basically acoustic is just format, you know, it's, you're a songwriter, you write songs, see how they work out when they just get stripped down to that, but what makes that a little different is that the attention to detail changes, and, and you really have to be careful, you know, when you're playing that you play in tune, and, you know, it's not distorted, so you, you can't cheat, you know, it has to be, you know, so it's actually pretty difficult for me, uh, um, to sign off on acoustic recordings, I'm having a hard time with that record, I mean, it, it, it's a totally weird thing about making an acoustic record, because on one hand, they're so boring, and you know it, the whole time, you're making, you're like, yeah, this is cool, but this is so boring, I mean, who's really gonna want to sit through a whole acoustic record, you know, and so you have that going on, which adds a little insecurity, and, and, uh, and then there's, uh, this strange kind of conflict that goes on for me, where I don't really want to overdo it, overproduce it, I want it to be honest, and, you know, uh, I don't know, incite some kind of credibility for just being simple and straightforward, but then I get so bored, and, um, so, yeah, I think that those records are actually the most difficult to make, and especially when you're making a record with any band, you're relying on the chemistry of the band, and there's, everyone's involved, and so, you're not alone, but Lagwagon records are the hardest to write for me. Why is that? Because I feel like that band has more consequence than any of the bands that I'm in, in that we've made a lot of records, we have a fan base that has certain expectations of the band, and I don't feel that I've ever done anything in that band that I'm not proud of, and so, there's always this thing about growing older, and losing some of your muse, and inspiration, and, you know, every time you make a new record, just feeling like, okay, this has to be, it can't be the worst record we've made, it could be maybe even second, the second worst record, but it really should be the best record, but let's face it, that's not gonna happen, uh, you know, you have this strange kind of thing going on, so, uh, I, I, I find myself, with the exception of the last record that we made, Resolve, feeling like I have to work really, really hard, and write songs for a couple years for it, and really, um, try to weed out all the stuff that's not up to par.

Yeah, it's not like you just sit down, and you're like, that'll work, it's, it's, it's alright. I know a lot of people who do that, and they get away with it, I just can't, I don't know why, I, I'm just, maybe I'm more anal retentive, or something, but, um, I don't get away with it, I, I write a lot, a lot, a lot of songs, and a lot of them are really not good. You should just record all those, put them out, just one, like, four-disc album. I'm sort of doing that with the acoustic record. Is that what you're like? I think that might be, you know, I don't know. Yeah, come on, dude. Well, I mean, that, you know, that was the thing about the playing favorites also, is that, you know, for me, uh, especially knowing that it's just kind of rock music, and I can just sort of come up with something that just feels fun to play, and, and, uh, that has less consequence in a lot of ways, but it is the most natural of the things that I'm doing, which is odd.

So, we're gonna take a break from the interview there, and play more music from the playing favorites. I checked the email from Virgil. We're gonna be selecting three people, and they're going to be getting a CD from the playing favorites, a record from the playing favorites, I don't know what pressing Virgil did, like, fucking three or four or five of them, because that's what he does, the guy likes colors, um, anyhow, there's a racist joke to be made there, but I'm not going to do it, because I'm above that. No, I'm not. But, uh, so, yeah, a record and a t-shirt from Suburban Home Records, the I Celebrate Their Entire Catalog shirt, which you may or may not know is taken from the movie Office Space.

So, check it out, as Virgil commits, probably some sort of copyright infringement on that t-shirt. So, yeah, we're giving away three packages of that, so enjoy that. Um, more music from the playing favorites, and, uh, then we're going to go back to our interview with Joey Cape, so check that out.

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Mm-hmm. And so, do you know, this is kind of going to be a difficult question, do you know the breakdown of who sings how many different songs, or who does the lead? Uh, three guys sing three songs, and one guy sings two, oh, I sing four, because there's fourteen. That would make sense. No. No, no, no. Three, three, wait. No, that doesn't work at all. Hold on. Well, three guys. Four guys, three, three guys sing four songs, makes twelve, and one guy sings two. All right. I was close. There you go. I was close. Yeah, and I wrote six of the songs on the record, but rather than sing the majority of the record, I asked two of the other guys to sing. Yeah. Now, were those, like, were those the songs where you're like, these aren't really that good.

I'll let you get it. Actually, I think that, uh, they're two of my better songs on the record, you know, but it was something that I really wanted to do, and I was happy that those guys wanted to do it, because, you know, the funny thing about Bad Astronaut is that originally when I had the idea to do that band, I really didn't want to be the singer. And I've always had this desire to just write music for people. I mean, I really don't even enjoy performing all that much, and, uh, I, I just like writing and, uh, recording, and I like that process. I'm kind of a nerd, you know. I'd rather not be out in public if I had my way. But, that said, uh, it's, it was funny because we just never could find a singer that worked for Bad Astronaut, and it was getting to the point where it was like, fuck it, let's just record, you know.

Um, and, so, in the playing favorites, that's a really cool thing. I'm hoping that we can do more records, and I can continue to write for those guys, because it's just, it's a cool thing when you write a song, especially after all these years, to hear someone else sing it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. If somebody covers, uh, there's been maybe, honestly, only one or two other, uh, instances where people have covered songs that I wrote, and it's always kind of a cool thing. I would imagine. Live, I've heard people do it. Yeah, I was going to say, with Lagwagon, I imagine there'd be a few people who would have covered it, but. We've played with a lot of bands, Lagwagon, that play our songs before we play it, you know what I mean?

That's a little weird. They're opening for us, and they're like, yeah, we're going to do that song tonight, is that cool? And we're like, kind of weird, but not. A little strange, but go for it.

You know, I've seen that a lot, but that's different because live, you don't get to actually, you know, but it's neat to hear somebody interpret your stuff, too. Don't get any royalties, either, also. No. No money in that, which is bullshit, man. No. Yeah. Um. Uh, yeah, so that's how that playing favorites writing thing went. What songs, uh, did you write that the other guys did? I wrote a song called This Is The Last Train, uh, and Luke sang it, and I wrote the song Waiting. Okay. Which Tim sang. Okay. I've been listening to the album, and I don't know if I know the song name, so. Song four is waiting, song five, I think is, you know, so they're like back-to-back, I think. Oh, okay. Very cool. Now, were they, were you like at all, and I was like, God, they don't fuck it up, or were you just, you're pretty sure they had it?

I already had done the vocals on both of them for the record. Oh, okay. And we got, we were basically finished with the record, and I thought, this is silly, you know, I don't want to be the guy that sings on half the record, you know, it just seems weird. This is a, uh, I mean, Luke and Tim and Marco are guys that I've grown up with, I've loved music that they've made for years, and, uh, I mean, Tim, I, I, dare I say, almost especially it was, like, uh, an interesting situation for me, because Tim is the guy that I used to live with, and when I wrote the Haas record, he was writing a record for his band, Summer Camp, or something, um, and, you know, we used to write together, and I, and I would play everything I played for, you know, that I wrote for him, and he would say, what if you do this, you know, and he's just an amazing songwriter.

He's one of those unsung people, you know, he just, he, all these guys, actually, you know, it's, they're all in their own right, um, they've had, kind of, interesting careers where they, you know, they've, they've been on major labels, and they've done major tours, and done all these things, but one way or another, got totally fucked by their labels, and, and, uh, Tim has always been one of my favorite songwriters. I mean, that guy has hundreds of songs that I wish I had written, you know, and, uh, a couple of them are on that record, but some of my favorite songs of his, I, I wish we could do, but I guess that would be weird, because he did them in other bands, but he's, he's, he's amazing, but they, those guys are talented guys.

That could be your next album, I mean, to be real easy, just do all the songs you guys did in other bands. I'm this close to suggesting it to him, and any day now, it's gonna be, it's gonna be like, hey, you know, you were talking about doing an acoustic record and covering, how about if, uh, I sing that song on our next record? How about if I just take one of the ones you did? I mean, can I just do it on my acoustic record? Can I do all your songs on it, so I don't have to write any songs? That would be, just saying, I'm putting it out there. Nobody's gonna know. I'll take all the credit and get all the money. That's a good idea, that's a way to go. I know, but, yeah, I know, but, anyway, it's, it's a real pleasure to play with those guys, it's just the coolest thing.

Now, have you guys actually gotten any distribution for Japan yet for the album? No, that's the irony. The irony is that, so, somewhere along the line, we talked to Virgil, I talked to, I spoke to Virgil, and I knew Virgil, I had known him for a long time, I think he said 11 years, but I feel like it's been longer, and just always got along well with him, and I called him and said, you know, we have this record, or he called me, I, now I can't remember. There was a phone call. It's a good story, it's a really good story that I don't remember. It sounds good, I'm excited. Yeah, so, you know, Virgil coming into it, for me, just makes perfect sense, and, and, you know, the weird thing about it for me is that this is the only record I've ever made that isn't on Fat Records.

Every record I've ever, I mean, there's 20 of them now, or 22, I don't know, there's a lot of records. Like half of Fat's cattle hawk. It's really funny how many records I've made with Fat, and just such a cool feeling to do something with a guy like Virgil, you know, so, but that came up, and, you know, then, then suddenly, hey, we have a label in the States, hey, maybe we should do some shows, hey, what happened to Japan? Are we going to go to Japan? Can we get a record label in Japan? And I think that the issue for us is obvious there. I mean, for the most part, you know, people will look at my record as, our record as my side project, or Marco's side project, you know, so it's either people that think, oh, you know, a guy that was in Sugar Call, or a guy that's in Lagwagon, and then they get the record, and they say, yeah, um, hmm, I don't really know how we're going to sell this to Lagwagon fans, and I go, well, we're not looking for that, you know, we're just looking for a label that's appropriate, and, uh, that's an interesting conundrum that people like I, uh, people like myself have, in general, having done what I've done, you know, I mean, I don't have any rock power in any other world than the punk world, you know, or that world, so, so I don't know, but we have this friend of ours, the one, this woman, Junko, that was at that dinner, that were, Luke and I had the original idea, I spoke about earlier, and she's sort of going to shop it around out there for us, and she's, she's, I, I mean, she's pretty, you know, in, in that industry out there, so she's, she's like, don't even worry about it, I'll get a label, but, uh, I will say this, um, it's slow moving out there, oddly enough, you wouldn't think that about that culture, but the record industry, and, you know, for example, if we do a tour in Japan, it's usually booked, like, six months in advance, at least, you know, and it still gets up to the month before, and things aren't finished, and you, you're getting stressed out about it, it's an interesting, uh, so we'll see, hopefully, God willing, sorry, long answer, no, no, no, your show's probably supposed to be five minutes, and, uh, we're just, like, 80% of this is, we're basically gonna cut and paste your words, so don't worry about it, yeah, make up, make sentences out of them, yeah, that's, that'll be fun, yeah, all right, didn't, I don't know if that came through, but I laughed, I liked it, um, real quick, I want to ask, uh, I heard that your wife, uh, did the painting, which is featured on the cover, is that correct?

She did, yeah, I had this here, because I was trying to send it to my friend in New York that did the artwork, you know, that did the layout, yeah, yeah, and, um, Saturday morning delivery to New York, right now, 50 bucks, and I just thought, oh, because Thursday's the hard one, I don't even think the CD cost more than two bucks, you know, I just couldn't do it, yeah, you can't really justify it, but yeah, yeah, she painted, she painted this, she's a great, yeah, I will, I'll fax it, that's a good idea, I think I'm just gonna email it, there we go, can we just, can we, can I do that with my iPhone right here, or, um, yeah, yeah, oh, not the art, it's the art, the unfortunate issue is that it actually is the art this time, which never matters to anyone else, no, not really anymore, it was his first layout, good friend, and anyway, uh, yeah, my wife, she's an amazing artist, and much, much better artist than me, really, in every sense of the word, I mean, she's so talented, but we have a kid, and she's the mom, and I go, I leave and go on tour and pay bills and stuff, you know, so it works out that way, but I asked her if I could use it for the cover, and I actually don't even know if she said yes, and I think I just did it anyway, and it's like, look what we did, yeah, because she's never actually put anything

all over our house, you know, paintings, and she writes children's books and everything, I mean, she's just really, really talented, and just one of those people that's really talented, but insecure about it, yeah, how that goes, well, hopefully, she hears this, I love you, honey, uh, I'm saying nice things right now about you, but yeah, no, it's a really cool thing, that is a, uh, makes me all the more proud of this, you know, it's cool that she, yeah, did all the artwork for it, that's really rad, I was gonna ask, actually, if you guys, if you would talk to her about doing it, or if it was just like one of those things where she had the piece, but obviously, she had the piece, it's in our living room, it hangs in our living room, and it's huge, oh wow, I had to take a digital photo, which that is what that is, oh wow, I had to kind of process it for a while, and try to make it look okay, and the funny thing is, I way overshot the, uh, um, uh, what do you call it, the sharpness of it, in the digital world, which can look, as you know, it kind of took the, the art, the painting out of it, but, uh, the funny thing is, is there you go, though, printers, it came out so matted and bland, that it actually almost looks just about right, you know what I mean, but that painting is huge, it's in our house, and it was, it said, I remember when I was pretty on it, which gave us our title, and, yeah, that's kind of her style, she does this sort of rim and petty bone kind of stuff, nice, so how about, like, about foot-wise, how big do you say it is, like, I'd say it's four feet by two and a half feet, oh wow, yeah, it's pretty large, yeah, that's really good, yeah, I mean, it's funny if you see it, to think that we got it on the CD, yeah, a little, I don't know how big CDs are, four by four, we'll say four, I think they're like eight by seven feet, but I could be wrong, it's, it's an estimate, it's somewhere in there, yeah, somewhere in the eight by seven foot range, all right, um, well, I want to thank you for, uh, doing the interview, um, trying to think if you have anything else that you want to plug, I mean, you have, yeah, you got a dozen different things you're doing, so, well, let's see, let's review here, yeah, you can run them down, no, not at all, um, but no, I'm excited that people, uh, I don't know that any of your listeners would, will actually be at all interested, um, in, in this band, but I'm excited that we're actually even able to talk to people about it, it's a funny thing about making this record, I had, you have no expectations, you know, especially because it's, it really is different than what I normally have done, so, it's just cool that anybody, thanks for, don't worry, no one is, no one on our end is really going to listen, but, uh, that's, that's not, that has nothing to do with you, I went to your, like, the website the other day, when I found out we were doing this, I don't know, bye, we're done, probably, but, uh, and there was a weaker than's post or something, did you do that, did one of you guys do that, we did, we interviewed the weaker than's, yeah, but it wasn't, it wasn't John, it was, uh, Steve or something, yeah, I don't, I couldn't remember his name, yeah, yeah, I couldn't remember his name, I can't remember which guy it was either now, that's pretty bad, I was like, oh, I was totally blanking on it, and I was like, I can't, don't feel like going back and looking new, when I saw that, I got really, really stoked, because, you know, oh, yeah, they're one of my favorite bands, we've worked our ways into all sorts of situations, we have no business being in, it's a cool thing, you know, it's a, it's, that, that part of things is really cool, that people, that people can be diverse, you know, we enjoy it, um, anyway, so, excellent, thank you so much for taking the time, sure, thank you, all right, thanks guys, Nairman's a bitch, part one, as he cries himself to sleep, so, that wraps up our interview, I thought that was pretty good, I was pretty excited about it, Joey was pretty excited, you could tell, you could hear it in his voice, he's a small man, it doesn't take much to get him excited, stepped stools, peanuts, balloons, shit like that, he's, he's really excitable, he ran off three times during the course of our interview, when people walked by with puppies, he's, it's pretty cute, he's like a small circus performer, Joey, Joey Cape's gonna kick me in the balls if he ever recognizes me, which he won't, uh, anyhow, uh, that wraps up the interview, good time, check out the playing favorites, buy their album, sell it, don't download it illegally, because that shit's ridiculous, if it has Universal on the back, you could download it, but, uh, if it's put out by Suburban Home, dude, Virgil makes no money, Joey Cape makes no money, just fucking buy it, man, don't be a douche, fucking, you think, like, Virgil lives in a house with a fucking limo and, like, all sorts of bitches and stuff, no, man, the guy probably feeds his kid, like, fucking, newspaper and salt stew, so, fucking, he's got a kid, man, you're stealing money out of Virgil's baby's mouth, little fucking, uh, whatever its name is, Dickerson is gonna be living on fucking welfare milk because you're too cheap to buy an album, that's fucked up, man, you're stealing from a baby, you make me sick, so, uh, that wraps up this week's interview and show, like I said, Virgil is kind enough to give you all three packages, each package contains a CD of the playing favorites, a record, and a t-shirt for Suburban Home, I celebrate their entire catalog, check it out, um, buy the album, to enter, you, uh, will send us an email to soundscenerevolution at gmail.com with playing favorites contest in the subject line, give us your name, address, pertinent information, anything we can use to find you and rob you, and, uh, your t-shirt size, because the winner gets a t-shirt included in that, and just to make sure you were listening, answer the following question, because Joey Cape plays in a number of different bands, um, like, 70 or so, what is your favorite band which consists of, did we already, no, no, we did something similar, your favorite band which has a guy who does another band full-time, so, for example, yeah, we did something very similar to this, but not quite, but, uh, for example, Lagwagon is Joey Cape's main band, there's Bad Astronaut, the playing favorites, things of that nature, Sound Guy and Aaron looks like he has something to say, I was saying, we could, uh, do the contest where you name a band with your favorite member of Me First and the Gimme Gimme's, yeah, but this isn't a Me First and the Gimme Gimme's contest, oh, yeah, which, true, which covered the songs from Dirty Dancing, which had Kevin Bacon, so, Six Degrees, that's right, I don't know if they actually ever covered a Dirty Dancing song, but it would, it would have been pretty sweet, either that or something from Wild Things, yeah, so we're not going to do Sound Guy and Aaron's idea, because it's a plain favorites interview, and because he thought of it, and I didn't, so, your favorite band featuring a guy who has a main band on the side, think about it, think hard, figure it out, send it in, soundscenerevolution at gmail.com, uh, yeah, and we'll have three winners for that, we'll announce those, uh, sometime before we die, um, one last song from the playing favorites, enjoy that, uh, check out the album, buy it, and, uh, we'll see you guys all next week.

We'll see you guys next week.

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