Interview with Ruiner - Podcast 75

Posted by Rich on March 25, 2008

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We're back! Sound the trumpets. Ring the gongs. Paint the fences. Whatever you do to celebrate do it, because this shit is off the hinges. We're back after two months of bullshit so that we could bring you some totally fantastic interviews.
Leading off the charge are some hardcore kids who make up a band called Ruiner. These guys play a style of hardcore that, while not groundbreaking, is super intense and amazingly catchy. They may only have one full length under their belt (and it's barely a full length) but they rock like veterans. So listen, enjoy and rock out like you're in Nam.

We're coking up some awesome contests with Punknews.org (hopefully), but in the meantime we don't have anything on our own. Please feel free to shot us some e-mails at SoundSceneRevolution@gmail.com, our MySpace or on the comments section.

And remember, "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of greeting ceremony at the airport but we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base,"
-Rich

Transcript (auto-generated, may contain errors; songs left out)

Sing it, Joey. It's a Sound Scene Revolution. Thanks for tuning in, downloading whatever Sound Scene Revolution. I'm Rich. We are back after like two months, two and a half months off. The kicker of this time off is we were getting a whole big buffer of shows so we wouldn't have to take time off. Again, we had five shows loaded up. Turns out two of them got erased. We now only have three shows so I hope you weren't looking forward to us talking about Shook Ones or This Will Destroy You because we don't have those shows anymore. Hopefully they'll both make it back relatively soon. As you might be able to tell, I'm dying of tuberculosis or strep throat or throat cancer, something exciting. But anyhow, we have a new episode this week with a fantastic band, maybe you've heard of them, called Ruiner, a name not taken from a Wilhelm Scream album title but actually from a Nine Inch Nails song or a Simpsons quote depending on how you look at it.

Anyhow, it's a pretty quick interview but they're good guys. You should check them out. We don't have any prizes this week. We did close the prize for Last of the Believers. We're going to mail out those two to whoever won that. There are two fine folks, one located out of North Carolina, one located out of Michigan, we'll say, or Missouri. Whatever MI stands for. So we got Rob and Joe, respectively, won those contests. So Michigan and North Carolina getting some love. For as close as we are to the Bay Area, no one here listens to our show, which is kind of a bummer. But anyhow, we got... We're in the Bay Area, we're not just close. Yeah, we're being located directly within the Bay Area. We've never got an email from the Bay Area.

Yeah, I guess everyone's just like, fuck it, I was there. I don't need to listen to your show. But we got a couple of tracks from Ruiner before we go into the... Or one track from Ruiner before we go into the interview. It's off of their latest album, Prepare to Be Let Down, available on Bridge Nine Records. First track we're going to play is called Lives We Fear. And then we're going to do the interview. So check it out and enjoy.

Blake's hanging out in the van with the guys from Ruiner. If you guys want to say hello real quick. Hello. All right, I guess if we could start just to kind of differentiate if you could all say, one at a time, who you are, what you do, all of that. I'm Rob, and I sing. Joey, drum. I'm Steve, I play bass. I'm Dustin, I play guitar. I'm Danny, and I also play guitar. All right, that's good. Easiest way to start, I guess, is there a brief history of the band, how you guys got started, all of that, the simple basics. Some of us were in a band in 2004. We weren't really happy with where the band was going. Some members had left, so we decided to start something new. And so the majority of the band started Ruiner.

We've had some member changes since then, but the three core members who started it are still in the band. Cool. That's more or less the short breakdown of it. The very short breakdown. The little five-second spiel on it. Yeah. All right. So you guys, your recent full-length came out on Bridge Night, am I right? Yes. Okay. I want to make sure I got the label right. How was that exciting for you guys? Because, I mean, they're a pretty reputable, well-known, hardcore label. Were you guys really stoked on that, or were you just like, eh, sure? It was a pretty exciting time. Yeah? How has it been since? It's been awesome. It's worked out real well. Yeah, yeah. No complaints. Nothing? All right. This is going to be like a five-minute.

This is going to be, well, it's a hardcore band. I guess it makes sense. We're going to have like a five-minute interview all together. So then your full-length is called Prepare to Be Let Down. Was there a reason behind that? Was it one of those things like, what was the point of the name, I guess? Inside Joke. Inside Joke. Yeah, pretty much. Because the EP, we had gotten a lot of reviews on it, and everybody thought it was really good. So we're like, yeah, just wait for the full length. Be prepared to be let down. So that's basically how it came from out. You could never outdo the first video anyway. Yeah, because you knew everyone was basically, oh, their first stuff was so much better. Everything was better than everything else.

Yeah, before they had recorded material, oh, it was phenomenal. So pretty much you were just, someone's always going to be let down by whatever you guys put out, basically. So it just worked. Yeah. We thought it was funny. Yeah, it's good. I laughed a little bit. How has the response been to it? It's been good. Yeah, not too many people are bitching about it. No, I mean, people, there's definitely been some reviewers who will make a reference to the name to be funny. But then there's other people who think it's amazing, you know. It's been good. The way that hardcore is, it doesn't matter what you do. Somebody's going to say your demo was the only good thing you ever did. So, I mean, basically you have to write music for yourself.

Like, you've got to do things that you think are good. So that way, even if nobody likes it, at least you say it was something that you're proud of. So you can't really try to please everybody because you're just going to end up with some shit then. So you're going to end up with an album that you hate that no one else likes. Yeah, pretty much. So it works out. Now, I had read you actually had to stretch out the album to make it 20 minutes long to make it, like, an actual, a distributor tighter full length. Well, we finished the record, and when we gave it to Bridge 9, they said, Oh, distributors want this to be, it's got to be 21 and a half minutes long. And we're like, Oh. Well, and it was 19 and something.

So we were trying to figure out ideas, all this different shit, and we didn't agree on anything. And then we asked them, Can we just make noise? And they said, No, distributors won't do it. We won't go for it. And then... We wanted to just have silence. Just have, like, a minute and a half on the end of it that was just silent. You know, and it took us so long to get the songs that we wanted to put on it that none of us wanted to add anything to, like, mess it up whatsoever. Yeah. So we ended up... That's when you do sketch comedy. Yeah. You add, like, a little bit or something in there. So we ended up just coming... Putting some bullshit on there. Yeah, putting some bullshit on there. Going into a studio at, like, 2 in the morning and acoustic guitar, piano, and after a show.

And you were like, I don't do it. Laying down that thing. You guys ever play it? No, it's just shit right there. It's the Exist trope. In all honesty, it's straight filler. So if somebody wants to get real deep on that one little part and it really touched them, well, they're an asshole. Some kid really did say... It doesn't mean shit. Some kid did say it moved him. It moved him. And you're like, that's really... That's really stupid. I'm sorry, kid. That's too bad for you. This is what happens to kids when you're on a label and they have rules. You have to follow. Well, so other than that, though, not too many problems. They didn't. There wasn't... No. I mean, we were happy with what we did, but it's nothing more than the make-up time.

Yeah. You were happy with a 19-minute album and they wanted another minute and a half. Even so, you gave it to them. Yeah. Fair enough. So I do a little bit of reading to get into these interviews, try and learn about the band. That's good. No, I don't do a lot. Don't. Very little. Like, what comes up on a Google search? But one of the lines in one of the tracks is, I'm alone or Dottie, I'm fucking rebel, which is actually from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, correct? Yes. Now, a lot of people, it's from... There's a band that used it and I can't think of the name of the band. Get Up Kids. Get Up Kids. Now, I'm assuming... From Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Yeah, it's not the Get Up Kids reference. It's from... It's actually...

The song's about a girl named Dottie. Oh. That's the only reason it's in. Ah, okay. Like, literally. Like, people ask me a question and think I'm making a reference to either Get Up Kids or that movie. Yeah. I'm... I guess I'm making a reference to the movie. More so. But the girl is literally named Dottie. Okay. Because I was going to ask, how the fuck does a Pee-Wee's Big Adventure line get into, like... It doesn't seem like you guys are very Pee-Wee's Big Adventure music. Maybe you're... No, growing up, I dated this girl. We were on the soundtrack. You'd be surprised how much of our... Big Daddy Elfman fan is actually inside jokes and things we think about. What we think are funny. Yeah, yeah. What we think's funny.

I dated this girl, like, for a long time, and she's had probably more songs written about her than anyone else in my life, and that was, like, kind of the period on it, was that song. She actually texted me this morning, because she just had a baby. Oh, wow. Literally, this morning. Like, had a baby. Literally had a baby. Yeah, at, like, 9 a.m. was, like... Not the metaphorical baby. Was this kid... Yeah. This kid is not yours. It's his other guy's.

No? What? What? No! Where did that come from? I want the record to state that I did not date anyone after Rob Sullivan. Well, that was... Good reason. That was a little awkward, I guess. Let's keep this part. Let's just talk. Yeah, if at any point... If at any point there's anything you just want to throw out, you're more than welcome to. So, between the EP and the full length, what do you guys think would be the biggest change in, like, your sound, songwriting, anything like that? We have a different drummer. That?

That's it. You're still a different drummer. I think the LP is, it's, like, darker, it's, uh, it's way more personal, um, than the EP was, um, which, um, a lot of people don't like, but a lot of people think it's great because, like, you're giving more of yourself to the music, but, you know, it's a double-edged sword. I think musically it all flowed together better on the full length. It's not that I dislike any of the songs in the EP, but they were, like, our first songs we were writing, so when we were writing... There was more of a flow on the LP. Yeah, it was more of a conscious thing when we were trying to, like, make a record that sounded like it went together. Yeah, as opposed to just writing, like, songs.

Yeah. You know. I think the production on the new record really captured the band more, too. Like, it's, it's more of, like, a bass-driven band, and I think the production on the record really captured, like, the way we sound live more. Wow. I haven't seen you guys live yet, so, but hopefully. Just a lie for the interview. Yeah. I don't, I don't watch bands.

No. We don't edit at all, and I'm sorry to tell you that now. Uh-oh. That's probably for the best. So, uh... It should be a lot more interesting. I don't think this is, I don't think anything we do is interesting, so... I'm sorry that you have to be a part of it, really. I was going to say you don't think anything in this interview is interesting. Anything we do. It's not your guys' fault. You guys are great. If that's what you think, it's fine, man. You just tell us. I don't know why anybody would listen to my podcast. I don't, well, it's mostly my mom and the sound guy's mom. Hi, your mom. Did you just say hi to my mom? You said that's the only person listening. I don't know if I'm okay with that, really. All right.

So, that's the middle of the interview is where we're at right now. It's a pretty exciting time to be. So, uh... We're just going to play a little more music from Ruiner. And then we're going to jump back into the interview. We're going to play 40 Miles North off of their Bridge 9 full length. Prepare to be let down. We get actually into a funny story about that album being a full length. So, you may want to hear it. It's a little funny. Not really. But it's good. The guys are good folks. Lots of beards. So, uh, enjoy. This is 40 Miles North. And, uh, we'll get back to the interview.

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Is that coming across? No. Okay. You have to do it on this mic. This mic? Yeah. Okay, good. No! You didn't date her. Are you still hung up on that? It was like all through high school. We didn't even go to the same high school. Come on, man. Moving on. This is new information for everybody that's involved. What's the next question? It was Rob's baby horns. Joey knows some dark secrets in Danny's past. I want to come clean on a couple things, Sullivan. Now that this is going on the internet. Now that the internet is aware, um, so this is just kind of one of those things that I kicked around is, uh, Wilhelm Scream named their album Ruiner. They also named their new record Career Suicide, which is a really big band.

Yeah, which was kind of weird. Do you guys do a lot of people either confuse the two or somehow think that you took the name? Really stupid people. Yeah. They don't confuse it. They don't confuse it. They think we took our name. They're lying. From the Wilhelm Scream album. They think that we went a year into the future, heard their name. Of the album. And went back and we're like, okay, that's what we're going to name ourselves. That's what we're going to do. That was pretty, that's pretty good. Yeah. That you have that technology. Well, we have a time machine. Yeah. So we just, we do stuff like that. You just, I have a lot of people think stock exchange and whatnot. Yeah, no, no, no. We just steal. When you have that power, I mean.

Yeah, we just steal ideas from other bands before they do them. Like song, like album titles and music for your band. Stuff like that, yeah. I actually had a kid once email me, like email the band and say, how does it feel that you've ripped off Wilhelm Scream visually, like lyrically, and all, and named all this shit. That you guys did. And I, I came back and just listed all these facts about the band. The funny thing is, Wilhelm Scream used to be a band called Smackin' Isaiah and Ruiner had members in another band and they were on the same label, like fucking like five years ago. Yeah. So that was really funny and this kid didn't know any of that. And I was like, yeah, well, cool. And then cited where the word Ruiner came from and he was like, oh, oh, well then, I guess that doesn't matter now.

Yeah. He's getting mad. What's going on? They're whispering shit into the mic back there. I can't hear it. Oh, okay. Is your mic on back there? Yeah. Now, where did the actual name come from that you guys use? I know I've heard it. The Nine Inch Nails song. Nine Inch Nails song. Thank you. And the Simpsons. It's also in the Simpsons. It was in the Simpsons? Yeah. What is it? Bart says, you ruin everything, you ruin her? It was Homer. It was Homer. Okay, I know. You ruin everything, you ruin her. Wow. That guy's got a sick rat tail. That guy has been talking gibberish. Yeah, he also came in the pizza place. That guy's my cousin. Flat out, just like talking, going through the trash, looking for food. It was awesome. Yeah, you guys had the guy out in front of Blake's earlier who yacked, so.

Yeah. You guys had that going. That's pretty good for you. Party. A girl just walked through it. In sandals, nonetheless. Well, they... A little bit. It's not enough. It's not nearly enough. You can't when you wear the biblical footwear. Puke on your feet. Yeah. That's why everyone should be against it. You too, Thornton. And Joey. Has this interview just turned into a campaign against sandals? Yes. Yes. I'm pro sandals. I'm... I love the sandals. Summertime, I want women between my toes. They should all be one when I get in the shower. You know what? Just because you're holding the microphone doesn't mean you can spit your propaganda. You're pro sandal gibberish. Hey, you should want me and Thornton fucking wearing sandals.

Yeah, you do have nasty feet. You know, better fucking feet stink, man. Yeah, but then that just brings the foot odor out into the open more. Or at least it's contained for a little while. Do you have any other questions? I do, actually. I was going to ask. I'm sorry. Let's talk more about Dustin's rotten feet. I wanted to ask... I'm tired of throwing away songs. Now, you guys tour, obviously, out of a not very large band. Is it out, like, really difficult? I've heard some bands are like, no, they're like my best friends. And some bands are like, by the end of the tour, we try to kill each other. We don't talk to each other. No? You just kind of let it go? That's not true. We talk. Yeah, yeah. This is probably...

We have certain members that aren't in a band anymore, so fuck them. And for that reason, we're a lot better as a band. Wow. That was... We got told our band it's a big-ass band. Yeah, yeah. That's a big-ass band! We don't... Well, the thing is, we have enough space in here that none of us have to sit next to each other. Yeah. So we're not crammed. That's true. We're not, like, uncomfortable. Yeah. We're pretty comfortable. Rob doesn't socialize with us anyway, so... Yeah, I don't talk. The rest of us talk. Rob has a BlackBerry and a laptop, so... That's what he does most of the time. Yes. I watch most of the time. All of the time. Episodes of Scrubs. I watch Scrubs. Hey, nothing wrong with that. Yeah. There's, like...

Wow. I should have done that. Did we get that? Yeah. No. No? Oh. Sorry. Oh, it's all right. So, do you guys... Do we do all interviews with all five of us in the same room from now on? How do... It would suck if you had to transcribe this. Oh, God. I know what I was thinking about it. Anyhow. So, I'm trying to remember. There are certain members of the band who are vegetarian. Is that correct? Or vegan? Just one. One? Just one. Now one? Now one. How does that work? Do you just kind of have to deal with it? We don't let him eat. Yeah, I just don't care. It's fine. We hear a lot of whining. A lot of crying. That's bullshit. I just buy bagels. And I pretty much... We tell him to open his mouth and whatever gets in there. Danny doesn't spend money on food anyway.

Yeah. We really should just... He doesn't do what we want. We just lock him in a box in the trailer. Well, there you go. Well, that makes it a lot fucking easier than... Our roadie on this tour is also vegetarian, so... No. He stopped. Oh, yeah. Yeah, never mind. We got on the break, so... What? Is that true? No, he got sick and he decided that eating meat would make him feel a lot better. Which isn't true. Which is stupid logic, but whatever. He slept for like 26 hours straight, and then when he finally came out of his coma... He went into a fucking sick cocoon. He was like, I'm going to eat meat. I'm going to eat a hot dog. What did he eat before then? Was he just drinking, like, Slurpees or some shit? Like, how do you get that sick?

Yeah. Not so good. It's probably America's germs, since he's from Ireland. Oh. That'll do it. It's also because he's never toured before, and he doesn't know how to take care of his life. Ah. That'll do it. All right. Well, before we waste any more of your guys' time, I appreciate you tolerating us. Is there anything you guys want to plug? You guys have the album out, websites, anything like that? Upcoming tours? Uh, twogirlsonecup.com. Church of Fudge. Church of Fudge. Oh, my God. You guys have your own reaction video online? No, we need to do that, though. You can do it. Church of Fudge. We are excited. I don't even know what that is, but I can guess. Just imagine a priest and a nun and eating things. How about finger painting?

It's German. It's very, very dramatic. Oh, that's good. Appreciate that. No, we're taking time after this tour to write for, like, a new record or EP. Or something to some capacity, so. That should come out this summer sometime. Yeah, hopefully. We don't have any, like, solid plans, but we're just going to start writing again and everything. All right. That sounds good. And then a Canadian tour, Japan, Europe. Killing the dream on the East Coast. Yeah. All kinds of stuff. Excellent. Well, that'll be good, hopefully. Go to our MySpace. It's just Ruiner. Go to our website. It's youruiner.com. Youruiner. I like that. All right. I want to thank you guys for taking the time and all the best with the show tonight and everything else you've got going on.

Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. I'll say two words. So, that's the whole interview. I thought it went pretty well. Really good guys. Fun dudes. Most of them don't do drugs. One of them gets really, really high, apparently. What more can you ask for a bunch of guys touring around in a hardcore band singing songs about women named Dottie? I don't know. Anyhow, we don't have a new contest this week because we forgot to ask the dudes from Ruiner for stuff. They were fucking, they live hand to mouth, dude. It's hard to ask a hardcore band for fucking free shit. You feel like kind of a dick. But they probably would have given us stuff, but I didn't want to be like, hey guys, you want to give us some fucking free stuff? I'll do it next time because I like you people and it's the only thing that keeps fucking happy listening is the hope for free shit.

So, that wraps it up. If we're going to play one more track off of Ruiner's full length, prepare to be let down. Feel free to email us, soundscenerevolution at gmail.com, myspace backslash soundscenerevolution or right here. We have a comment section. Enjoy all of that. We're going to play When the Morning Ends off of their full length. Prepare to be let down. Enjoy and we'll see you guys all next week.

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This is Danny Porter and I love comics. This is Mitch Romer and you're listening to SoundScene Revolution and my girlfriend's a pill addict. It has scabies. It has scabies. It was a prostitute for pills. I had something. It likes cocaine. But now I totally lost it because after that, you ruined the bond. Dang. Thank you, Joe.