Interview with Low Red Land - Podcast 106

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I am Rich, here as always with Sound Guy Nairman, who you can hear breathing and scowling in the background, not being humored, which is fine. Anyhow, this week we have a brand new interview with a fantastic local band called Low Redland, and I'm a bit skeptical whenever anyone's like, oh, there's this great local band, and I'm like, are they a great band? Are they great? Because they're close. Like, you know, there's a ton of places I eat that are directly next door to my house that are really fucking terrible, but they're super close. And when you're drunk and it's right there, it's a totally good idea. But I wouldn't call it a good restaurant. But Low Redland is actually a really, really good band. Like, I don't care where they're from.

They're pretty fantastic, and you really should listen to them. So, yeah, I actually didn't even know they were a local band. I kind of am opening up for William Elliott Whitmore in San Francisco, and I had no idea at the time that they were even local. So that shows how much I pay attention to San Francisco. Go me. Anyhow, they're a great group of guys. They got a new acoustic EP coming out. They have two full lengths. They're just all over. They're going to be playing the Fest this year in Gainesville. So if you hear this and you're not going to make it out to San Francisco to see them, check them out at the Fest. I don't know. Right now we don't have anything new to give away, but this will be the last week we're going to run the Attica Attica contest where we will be giving away two marathon CDs, the Attica Attica CD, the Red Leader 12, 10-inch picture disc with Attica Attica, Scream Hello, Nakatomi Plaza, and The New Dress.

And they all cover other bands. We have, there's an Attica Attica t-shirt and some stickers and all that stuff. And it's going to be really, really sweet. It's a great prize pack. So listen to the Attica Attica interview, or at least the last, I don't know, eight minutes to figure out how to enter that. Our contests are all stupid simple because I'm pretty stupid simple. All right. Other than that, we have Warped Tour. That's right. Sound Guy and Airman coming in on that. But right about now is when we would start inundating you with bullshit from Warped Tour about a bunch of artists I don't care about that you don't really want to hear about. But here's how Warped Tour went this year. Early on, I went to the opening day to Warped Tour in Pomona because Ben Conley from Punk News was flown out to Pomona.

And I thought I would go see him and say hi because I don't go out to New Brunswick, Canada very often. So I went out. I saw him. We walked around Warped Tour. I garnered one 10-minute interview with POS and that was it for the entire period of Warped Tour. The next day, Warped Tour came up to San Francisco and I stayed in Pomona to hang out with Ben. And then last Thursday, Warped Tour came through the Bay Area in Mountain View again. And I was like, I'm not taking a day off of work to go hang out with a bunch of people who want to go see Broken Side. So fuck Warped Tour. We missed out this year and honestly, it's kind of Warped Tour's loss because they booked a ton of shitty bands. Good bands to watch that are on Warped Tour.

The Gallows are always good. Shad is really, or Shad rather, excuse me. Canadian Rapper is really good. POS, of course, phenomenal. So if you get the opportunity, check them out. But I mean, fucking seriously, I had a brain aneurysm. It was so terrible this year. I literally shit blood for two weeks after it because everything good inside me ruptured and died with how fucking terrible Warped Tour was this year. Go listen to the Emotron interview if you don't understand that joke. But it was unbearably awful. And I had no urge to go sit through it again and fucking sit there while bands like, and this is my rant, while bands like fucking Millionaires and Broken Side and fucking Dance Gavin Dance and a bunch of other shitty neon shirt wearing big fucking visor glasses having bands go out there and talk about fucking music and how important they are and how people don't like them because they're fucking different and it's just because they fucking suck and they're self-absorbed and nothing they do should ever be put down on any sort of audible medium for posterity throughout history and fuck, it was terrible.

Next to possibly, I'm trying to think of what I've had that's worse, oh, when I tried to piss in a Gatorade jar when I was doing a road trip and I missed and I pissed all over my pants. That is the only experience in my life that has been less enjoyable than that. It was terrible. But we'll go next year. Next year, I'm sure, we'll be fucking great and we'll be there and we'll hit you with 20 great Warped Tour interviews of bands neither of us care about. All right. Anyhow, Low Redlands, we're going to play a track by them. Hopefully, we're going to have some tracks off of their acoustic EP, which is coming out and if not, I'll pick some of my favorites off of their last album. So check them out, listen to the songs, enjoy the interview.

We'll catch you guys in a bit.

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So we're hanging out at, I don't know the name of the place. El Matate. El Matate with the members of Low Redland. If you guys would like to take a second to introduce yourself, say your name, what you do in the band, all that stuff. I am Mark and I play the drums in the band. I'm Neil and I play guitar and I sing. I'm Ben and I play bass and I sing. I almost didn't get my instrument right. Ben's playing guitar now. Yeah. Way to go. So I'm just a singer then. Everything's coming through. You're just the singer. You're just no longer playing guitar. Well, you're just the singer. You're out. I took it over. Economy. I've been working.

You're not good enough to just sing. I'm working on your eyes. But I got, yeah, I got the bod. It's true. Good to know. All right. So I guess the easiest place to start is, is there a brief history of the band, kind of how you guys got started and here today? Yeah. We actually all met in college. We went to Hamilton College and I was in New York and played in several different bands together with various other people. It was always the three of us and then, you know, other randoms, friends of ours. We moved to Boston after we graduated. We had a band there. About two years into it, the fourth guy quit, went to medical school. What a shitty reason to quit a band. Yeah, right? Seriously. He's a dick. It ended up being a pretty good thing for us because we formed this band and then we moved from Boston to San Francisco.

And that's kind of where we are now. We have gone through, I think the sound is always going to be sort of evolving, but it's been the three of us for like nine years now. Wow. Different bands. But what, four years here in the city? Just over four years in the city. Oh, wow. Pretty sick. So you guys are pretty well settled into the San Francisco area by now. Feels like home. Yeah, for sure. Nice. So you guys have, what, self-released all three of your, the two full lengths and the EP, the acoustic EP? Yeah, more or less. More or less? Yeah, we have like some help from Ben and friends of his have a record label called Ghost Mansion and they've been in charge of like acoustic EPs and then our buddy Jared at Thinker Thought.

And Illinois does all our digital distribution. Nice. How has that been? Has it just been something you guys, where you kind of want to, for the control purposes or is it just easier if you guys to do it all? It's easier. Have you listened to us? You think somebody would want to actually? We are not marketable. I don't know if you can put finger quotes in there, but. Well, we'll say there were finger quotes around not marketable. People don't care. Yeah, it's not really, it's more our personality than our music that endears people to us. So, we have a lot of friends. I mean, it's been, yeah, it has been to be like, it has been really pretty easy to do things the way we've wanted to do them. Because we're all willing to work for it as much as we possibly can.

So, the mentality for a while has been if someone can do something for us that we can't and they're good people, like we'll be more than happy to work with them. Yeah. But if we can do something for ourselves, we will. Just easier that one? Yeah, totally. Well, you guys have your second acoustic EP coming out? Yeah. It's going to be out in a couple weeks. 22nd of August? Of August, yeah. Wow. Hopefully. Yeah. Well, it is. It just is. Yeah, it just is. We're not sure how it's going to be. We have to mix it. It's going to be out on the 22nd. There's no solid plans, but it will happen. It's going to happen. Yeah, exactly. Fantastic. We haven't mixed any of it yet, but it's like really simple live recordings of acoustic stuff.

How many tracks are you guys looking at? Four. Four tracks. Okay. And your last one was mostly it was just acoustic versions of old stuff and stuff that was not yet recorded for Totally Dogs Him. Thank you. That's kind of true now, too. Yeah. We sort of developed this, I don't know, alternate band that plays acoustic, which is cool because we can treat the songs kind of new again. Different limitations, different sounds. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Now, so for the new one, is it going to be stuff that has not yet been recorded or different takes on what you guys have done? Stuff that hasn't yet been recorded and then a very, very old song. So probably something was recorded electric a long time ago. It was recorded acoustic, too.

That's it? You and me recorded that in Watertown with like two banjos. Like we've had like a bunch of versions of it kicking around. But this is, yeah, but like we sort of like a new like instrumental section add to the end of it. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds, I mean, it's, I think it sounds much better than it did. Yeah. We recorded, we recorded at a Hyde Street, which is with Scott the Engineer. Scott the Engineer. From, from the CERN show. Oh. Good. I didn't, I don't listen to CERNs. I'm sorry. And I don't know. It was awesome. Jerry Garcia recorded in that studio and David Crosby and Neil Young. Super dang. Not at the same time you guys were there? No. Well, yeah. We had, we had Jerry sit in. We had the spirit of him there.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I sat in Jerry's seat. They had Jerry Garcia in a bag. Just doing heroin and eating Haagen-Dazs is awesome.

That's what being a musician is all about, ultimately. Yeah, that's what being Jerry Garcia is all about. Hocking out. Yeah. Well. Doing heroin and eating ice cream. It's not a bad existence, really. No. On the music end of things, where you guys are talking about re-recording, the track Duke has showed up on all three of your... Don't worry, we're not going to do it again. We were actually joking about recording that again for this acoustic EP. Is it just kind of, you like, changing it up on each time, or is it just one of those songs that you didn't feel you, like, necessarily got how you wanted it the first time? Well, that song's gone through a lot of iterations. We have a couple electric versions of that song.

The acoustic version's always been pretty consistent. But it really fit in with the record. And I think that was the main thing. To come off of a really huge, kind of expansive song, and to have that arrangement of that song was really opportune for the record. Yeah. Yeah. It was good to do that, too, because being a band that does acoustic versions of songs and electric versions of songs can sometimes, I think it throws people off a little bit because they, people will come and see us play live electric, and then the next time they come and see us play, we might not have, like, specifically announced that we're playing acoustic, but we suddenly are. And they may or may not enjoy the experience the same way.

Usually, it works out just fine. People will kind of dig it. When people see us play acoustic, and then they see us play electric, that's usually a little bit more rocky. My brother, last night, there were these kids in our house, and he was like, they're like, what's your band sound like? He was like, what? It's rock. You know, it does all this different stuff. But basically, at the beginning of the night, it's a bunch of dudes and their hot girlfriends at the show. And by the end of the electric set, all the chicks have left. A bunch of dudes. And the dudes are there, like, wanting to throw back shots with the band and, like, partying. Yeah, talking about your gear. And they're, like, really, really stoked on it.

Like, our girlfriends left. We're out for the night.

We had a string section at, like, Cafe Du Nord, and, like, honestly, you had to mop the floor after we were done.

There's no other good reason to get into a band than that. Yeah. You're already set. That's a good enough reason for everything. Did someone spill a beer or something? So we threw Duke on that record. Like, it's sort of a studio-recorded version of the acoustic song on that record to kind of give, I don't know, like Neil said, it fit really well as, like, as a bookend. Yeah. And it also, I think, prepares people a little bit. Yeah. We also had, like, we used to have an earlier version of the record that we recorded, like, in South San Francisco. And that was, like, the one thing that we sort of maintained from that session for this record. And it was kind of nice, just because even though we decided not to release that, it did represent, like, part of the learning process of making this record.

Cool, cool. So it was really nice to include it. Nice. On that, from Duke, on the last record, you guys transitioned into a Pink Floyd cover. Yeah. Right. And so I'm going to blow it. The Day the Lions got out? Well, no, that's good, though. No, that's nice. I kind of like that. It's when the Tigers broke free. Yeah, I'm sorry. The Day the Lions got out, though. I think, potentially. You're out, dude. It's kind of like the Baja Men version of that song. I don't, I'm going to be honest, I don't listen to a lot of, uh... When did the Lions get out? Fuck you. Who? You're the sound guy. You're not allowed to laugh. That's good. Sorry. Mic that up. If you can't tell, I'm not a Pink Floyd fan. No, that's all right. No, no. So, anyhow.

It was actually, like, it's a, and that song itself is a pretty rare Pink Floyd song. It was released, like, uh, it was part of the movie The Wall. I know what that is. And then it was, it was recorded at the same time as the final cut. Oh, not the final cut. Uh, The Wall. Mm-hmm. And it was released on the remaster of the final cut. And the extended version was released on the, uh, there was, like, that compilation. Apparently they know a little bit more about Pink Floyd. No, it's a totally different, it's a, the one on the, the one on the movie is, like, it's a totally different cut altogether. Singing's different, everything's different. So, yeah. So, it was just, it was a cool song. I remember my dad used to play that song a lot, uh, when I was younger.

And one of, one of the first records I ever, like, loved to listen to is Dark Side of the Moon. Like, when I was, like, a little, like, tyke. And, like, that's good music for kids to grow up. But I didn't know that song until we were in, like, Dallas. And Ben played that record for us a couple years ago. And then it all kind of, like, came flashing back to you, like, your childhood. Yeah. The final cuts, the, with, with that on there is a really awesome album, so. I will have to check that out now. It's nice to add. Just to redeem myself a little bit. No, no, no. Yeah, don't do it on our account. Someone's gonna be pissed. I don't know about you guys, but someone's gonna get pissed. Yeah, we made up our mind about you, like, as soon as we met you.

It's already too late. There's no hope. Well, I mean, I appreciate your, uh, level of honesty on that one. Yeah. But so, it was just one of those ones you guys liked. Yeah. And you decided to be good to cover. It doesn't really, and we changed, I mean, like, the original version of the song sounds much different than what we, you know, how we played it. So, it's something that I, like, I think the most, the closest that we tend to hue to the sound of the original songs are kind of when we do, like, we do a couple Mission of Burma songs. Mm-hmm. Um, and those are basically, we don't change those up really, but we do, uh, like, on the first record in Winter Nations, we cover, like, a really old Steve Earle song, just a chorus of that, but we tend, we draw it out.

Um, and that sounds much different than his version. Mm-hmm. The Pink Floyd song sounds much different than their version. So, it's nice to kind of put our stamp on something that we really enjoy, but, you know, doesn't necessarily sound like what we sound like. Well, it always seems kind of cheap when bands cover a song and they do it pretty much, like, verbatim. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Especially if they blow it. Like, that's, like, that's, like, that's, like, that's, like, that's a big, that's a big drag. Yeah. And I, I don't think, I mean, luckily, like, just by virtue of the fact that we are the instrumentation that we are, like, we couldn't, there's no way we could possibly cover the Steve Earle song like it, it actually is, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. Unless we played, like, either acoustic guitar or had, like, a country band or something. So, it's nice because it sort of, like, obscures our influences a little bit, too. Yeah. Well, it doesn't make it seem like you guys are just trying to rip them off or, you know, a quick buck or something. Yeah. Which is good. We were contractually obligated to have ten songs. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Another cover record, huh? Yeah. We can't, there couldn't be nine on there. Wouldn't have been a full length. Right. By your self-release contract. Mini LP. Yeah. No one does that anymore. Yeah. You guys need mini, the small CDs. The three-inch CDs. Yeah. Or, like, the, like, yeah, the weirdly sized ones. Yeah. The five-inch ones.

Yeah. Mini disc, too. Yeah, mini disc. Yeah, they're coming back. Oh, yeah. For sure. I remember when I was, God, it had to be 18, 19, someone bought a shit ton of mini disc, like, the hardware and a shit ton of mini discs. And they were like, I'm set. This is good for the next 40 years of music. Yeah, and I was like, I was like, that guy's so cool. And, like, three years later, I was like, fuck you. Yeah. Sucks to be you. I what? Oh, no. I was like, I just download all my music now. I don't, I don't pay for shit now. It's awesome. Yeah, it's sick. Everything's free. Everything's free. Aw. I still buy some music. It's nice. I think it's nice that, if we're on the format conversation. Yeah. I think it's nice that vinyl's coming back around.

That's something that we're. I'm a big fan of vinyl. Yeah. With the digital. I think the vinyl digital coupling is. I like it. It makes, it makes, like, perfect sense. Well, if you're into one of those people, like, who likes the physical copy of the album and all of that, which I love. I love having shelves and shelves of, like, giant oversized artwork and shit. Yeah, records that you love. Yeah. That's great. You can put way more shit on a record, too. Yeah. Like, you can just, like, really, like, we haven't, we hope to put dog sims on a record soon. That'd be good. Yeah. But, like, having all that space, like, jacket space is awesome. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, you get, there's a lot of, I mean, even artwork that was more or less designed during the 90s, which was primarily for CDs, that looks so much better on that full size.

Yeah. Like, you can fit just the detail and shit like that. It's really nice. Yeah. That's, that's, that's the nerd side of me. I have, like, 40 records in my car because I get them delivered to work so I can hide them from my wife because, and then I bring them home when she's asleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny because you get this porn delivered home. Yeah. Hide it from work, yeah. So I can sneak it into work. That's the only way I can get it in the company bathroom. Yeah. That's, like, twice I've talked about masturbating at work on this show. So I hope, I hope no one at my work listens. You've got to stop masturbating. It's getting out of his hands. Do you consider this work? It would explain why I masturbate.

You're just masturbating right now. He's currently, yeah. Anyhow, back to the music. I almost just said something horrible. Yeah. I got, I got both hands up here. I'm okay. You guys are editing this part. You, you, you're, is this all going to go straight out? No. I mean, we totally, we can't. Can we say terrible things? Yeah, yeah. All right, good. It's the internet. I mean. The moment might have passed. No, the moment's long. It had to be there. Yeah, okay. Well, the moment passed for a terrible thing. You know what I know. Can you hear my beard hair is on the microphone? Is that causing a problem? Okay. What? I missed that. He wants to know if he can hear his beard. Hear his beard? No, my beard. Oh, his beard? Yeah. I have to get here.

Yeah, that's, yeah, with the pop filter. All right, fine. Yeah, because these are much more sensitive mics. Yeah. We're going to take a quick little interjection here to bring you guys some more music by Low Red Land. If you missed the first song or you were just curious, they're kind of like a mix. I put them as a mix kind of of Constantine's and The Weaker Thins who are both Canadian bands, but they also have a lot of historical aspects of their songs. Like, there's a lot of history in them, which is really, really cool. So, I don't know. Check it out. Again, hopefully we don't have all of the songs edited in yet, so hopefully we'll have a track off of their acoustic EP. If not, we'll be bringing you some of their older stuff, which is still really, really good.

Stay tuned at the end of the interview for recaps and all of that, you know, good shit that's coming up next. All right, bye.

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So a lot, yeah, pretend we're doing something official. So a lot of the music, well not a lot, but certain of it have very historical aspects in regard to that. And is there a motivation behind that? Is it just kind of what you guys know about or read about, or is it kind of more of an intentional angle on some of that? Well, it's part of, I guess part of what I grew up with. I don't know. I think it's cool, I guess. I like history a lot. I don't know, I think I also kind of try to draw parallels between history and now. But avoid being explicit about it at all because I'm too afraid to make up my mind, I guess. So it's sort of like these weird lessons that you can sort of learn from or try to adapt yourself to.

I guess it's just like the mythology of my head, I guess. I don't know. That's good. Well, it's hard. I feel like a lot of bands who try and write historically based songs or songs with historical relevance, it either comes off like really corny or really like, I think, oh, it's the centerpiece from their table. Oh, my gosh. I think they'll be all right. Yeah. But so the songs either tend to come off real corny or real like kind of storyteller-ish. It's almost like we're counting exact events. Yeah. That's one thing like I just try to, like I think, I feel like conceptually, like we're working, the stuff we're working on now is based on what I think the experience of John Wilkes Booth days kind of are. But like none of that's really explicit, you know, I can't, I don't, yeah, there's no sense of saying like, you know, on, you know, Good Friday is the day, you know, like that's the day when Lincoln was killed and then John Wilkes Booth did this and then went here and like, I don't know, to do, it just, I don't know, that's like, I feel like a lot of concept albums used to do that in the 70s and like, I feel like those are the parts of concept albums that like I always end up like trying to flip through and like waiting for the music part, so it's more like trying to get impressions of that story and, you know, creating characters or adapting yourself to it, so.

Yeah. But without making it, yeah, so straight ahead on that. Yeah. Well, usually, I think just in general in terms of like lyrical content across the board, I think subjectivity is a lot more interesting than objectivity. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. I like that. That's the quote. Yeah, that's the quote. That's what's going on there. Fantastic. Cool.

That's a cut. So, you guys are working on new stuff right now? Yeah. I'm going to spike my microphone. Yeah. Just throw it down. I'm done. See you. I'm out. We've got five new songs and then one more, hopefully, by the time we're on tour, which will make six. That's sort of the goal in this like record. As we've gone on more, I kind of want more songs. Yeah. Some like nine to ten, ten to eleven. Ideally. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. How many seems natural? We'll see. It depends on when we have time to write and rehearse after tour. That's the big thing. With this record having the same narrative throughout and having it being based on Lincoln, we need to get it recorded this year and out this year. Yeah. Part of the idea, I guess, was sort of inspired.

This is like Abraham Lincoln's 200th year, basically. So we're late relative to his birthday, so I'd like to at least have it like recorded and done in some form. That'd be cool. On the other hand, like some of the songs on the acoustic EP are out, so it's kind of nice just to have the songs, I guess. Yeah. But to have the record would be, just be nice. Ideally. At least it's on his birthday next year. That's, yeah, 201, Space Odyssey. The cover would be like a big cake. Uh-huh. Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. Coming out. Abraham Lincoln jumps out of a cake. That's awesome. Just use a, what is it? Just like real Abraham Lincoln. He jumps out of a cake and he's immediately shot in the back of the head.

And then the curtain drops. Greatest birthday party ever. If you couldn't tell, the historical background also comes from a deep, deep reverence. Yeah. Obviously. Clearly. Deep respect for history. Just the photo of when it was his birthday and they had the really creepy impersonator like shaking hands with Obama. Yeah. I didn't see that. That was surreal. They had it on the news and it was really weird because I guess it was, you know, they were celebrating his birthday and there was this like Abraham Lincoln impersonator shaking hands with the president. And I'm like, that's not even like, that's like irreverent, but it's supposed to be like honoring him in the same way, which is, well, plus you're also putting in a president who was assassinated up with another president who was pretty controversial.

Out of the last 20 years, probably most likely to get shot out. Well, plus when he was campaigning, he was like aligning himself with like Abe Lincoln and Robert Kennedy and John, like John Kennedy. And you're just like, whoa, like, are you trying to like self-fulfill a prophecy here? Like, it's like, it's kind of frightening. Everybody loves presidents who die, man. Like in office, that's the way to go. So, he's my favorite president. Vice president ever. Oh, yeah. Totally. He's really good. I'm a big fan. Well, I mean, almost Reagan. Yeah. I probably would have liked him more if that's how he went out. He's dead now. FTR? Thank God. Yeah, right? Now that he was an old, useless, senile man. George W. Bush? Hey.

Politically. Dick Cheney's not really alive. I've decided. He's a robot. There's no way he could be real. There's no way. Yeah. Anyhow. Moving forward. What?

Well, that is a good question, Mark. Do we have, how much tape is in that thing? It's a mini disc, actually. Yeah. Not enough time. That's the same recorder that Brendan has. It's a tiny CD. Oh, yeah. We've used that to record at our house before. Actually, we've used that to record in here before, too. It's a great little record, too. Yeah. We played a show in this place. Really? We're in that corner. This very place. Awesome. Oh, shit. They're fantastic. When we came down here, he asked if it was going to be a show. And I'm like, no. They're just getting food at the Taqueria. It could have been a show. It could have been a show. I could have been a liar. That would have been sweet. Yeah. Seriously, I've been to smaller shows.

Anyhow, moving forward. I want to ask you guys, for some reason or another, you ended up with a photo in an L.A. Times article about an eight-ounce hamburger. It's because we're awesome, right? Oh, yeah. It was just like... You were watching us eat food, like, a minute ago. Yeah. It looked good. How awesome did that look? I'm going to be honest. We should have snapped some photos. This dude just came in and was taking... We were, like, on our way to San Diego and stopped for burgers. An eight-ounce. It's a good burger. Eight-ounce burger bar. It was awesome. And this dude had a camera on him, and I started making sex eyes at him. He was kind of, like, floating around the periphery and, like, looking at us. He was taking pictures of the place, like, and, like, saw a little press credential on him, and I was, like, you know, just propositioned him to take some photos of us chowing burgers.

He was really excited because he was, like, oh, do you mind? Is it all right? And then he, like, within the span, his camera was fast. And it was, like, there were, like, 17 photos taken in, like, two seconds. It was just, like, da-da-da-da-da-da. And we were, yeah, we were just, I mean. The best part about that is it is the edition that also, it was the day after Michael Jackson died. Oh. So every copy of it in Los Angeles sold. So we're going to be immortalized. I called one of my buddies down there, like, we found out, like, what, like, 6 p.m. or something. Yeah, yeah. He sent me a text, and, like, I, like, texted my friend down in L.A., and he was, like, they're all sold out. I was, like, go get one of these right now.

You need to find one. Our greatest dream is to be tied to major tragedy. That's so far so possible. We were pretty good. We were looking as happy as we look in that picture. We looked so happy. Yeah, we were, like, it's a twofer. Like, Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett. The thing is, the article, like, I read the review of it, and it was a pretty, like, scathing review. It got, like, a star and a half. I had a really good experience there. It was a good burger. It wasn't amazing. It was good, though. It was. You said it was amazing? When? You're going to take that back now? He has since retracted the amazing and replaced it with a goat. There goes our burger sponsorship. Yeah, dude. Yeah. When I said Gary. Amazing, I meant amazing?

Amazing. Question mark? I meant, yeah. Amazing. It's possible. Amazing? Yeah. So that was, that's, like, the biggest exposure we've ever had. The only way that could have been possibly better is if it had, like, you know, how they have the front page. They have the little, like, stories on page eight up in the corner. If it was, like, Michael Jackson dies and right above that is you guys, like, how good is this eight-ounce burger? People turn to food for comfort. That's pretty, so did you guys end up getting a copy, securing it? No, no. We actually, I didn't even, like, we didn't even think of anything twice of it, like, after we left, you know, and then I got a text from a friend of mine. Yeah, Mark thought about it.

I was like, what are you talking about? That's all he kept talking about in San Diego. He was like, I want to forgive me the newspaper. And he was right. Yeah. He kept him, like, harassing newsboys. Yeah, I'm not in the picture. Have you guys seen the newsboys? I ain't got no papes. What's the amount of newsboys sound like these days? I have... That or... Can't you just buy them in grocery stores now? Italians? Newsboys? No. I meant newspapers, but maybe newsboys. Potentially. I got a store for you. And it ties all back to Michael Jackson. Aww. Aww. Never proven. I know, it's true. Legally innocent. I wouldn't, if I had a kid... Yeah, if I had a kid, I probably wouldn't let him hang out with him, though. Though, we did see his arcade.

There's, like, photos... Is it sweet? ...online, like, 360 panoramic, like, tour of his arcade. Really? So awesome. As a full-grown man, I would have blown him if he let me in that arcade. I don't know. I don't think he was his type, actually. No, that's the problem. So, like, how does it work, though? Like, he was, like, what? $250 million in debt? Like, how did he just, like... Like, I don't have any money, but at least I'm not $250 million in debt. Yeah. That's a ton. So, like, how come Michael Jackson gets to have an arcade? Because Michael Jackson... And I don't get... I don't even have... The thing is, he could make that, like, if he... That's the thing is... And you're not even in debt. Those O2 concerts he was going to have, like...

Oh, yeah. He had, like... He was going to make so much money. It's, like, 30 or 40 dates or some shit. 50 shows. It was, like, 50 shows, and it was, like, what? A 50,000-person, like, theater? Oh, it's sold out. Apparently, his, like, production cost is, like, you know... Like, a couple million dollars a show or some shit. Yeah, but, I mean, to host it at the same place over and over again, I mean... Not to have to move it. That shit set up, yeah. So much money. That's the thing. I mean, like... I would do those shows as Michael Jackson right now for one-eighth of what he would have made. If anyone will take me up on that. They were saying... There was, like, a... There was that rumor after he passed away. There was that big rumor that, like, Pink Floyd was going to take some of the shows and Led Zeppelin was going to take some of the shows, and I think Robert Plant was quoted as being, like, why would anyone who enjoyed Michael Jackson want to see me sing for, like, four hours?

I know. I know you guys like Michael Jackson, but here's Led Zeppelin. Totally the same thing. Here you go. Only if Led Zeppelin covered Michael Jackson songs. Yeah. With John Bonham. That'd be sick. With John... Well, they'd be using a drum machine anyway, so, I mean, it would be all right. Whatever. It'd be fine. Totally. Also a band. John Entwistle, Keith Moon, John Bonham. No way this could be a... Just two drums and a bass. The show. There's no way that could be a bad idea. All right. You got one more? No, I think we're going to wrap it up. I think I'm going to ask, is there anything else you guys want to talk about? Anything you want to plug? It's David Dobbs' birthday today, so... Oh, our friend David Dobbs, who was the...

There was a band, Scouts Honor. I don't know if you guys are familiar with them. I know the name. I'm just going to replace them. Out of Illinois. First Peoria, and then Chicago. The last version of the band had our friend David on drums, and they were awesome. And Jared, from Scouts Honor, also runs Thinker Thought, which is the label that handles our digital. Oh, okay. So, what's up to those dudes? We're going on tour. That's the other thing. There's that, too. Playing in San Francisco. Rock Bank Street Festival on the 23rd. That's going to be really awesome. We'll be going until October 11th. Yeah, we'll be all over the country. We'll be back at the fest in late October. Yeah. Which will be a good time. Yeah.

It's a really good time. It's one of my favorite weekends of mine. That's so far, like, my favorite, yeah, like, one of my favorite times. It's pretty awesome. I've got to say, I'm actually all, I'm really excited that people aren't as interested in the lineup this year. Like, a lot of people are like, oh, I'm not really that in the lineup. I'm like, good. Last year was way too crowded, so I'm like, if 500 or less kids come, I'm okay with that. Yeah, I was looking at the line this year. It's kind of a dick's move on my part. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know what you mean, though. It's so much nicer to watch a show without, like, some sweaty dude's, like, hair in your mouth. That's his hair. That's my back hair, all right?

I can't do anything about it. It's in medical condition. No, the lineup this year looks pretty awesome. No, I'm excited. And besides, even if there's not really any bands I'm super into, it's a great time. Yeah, Young Widows is playing, Torch is playing. Oh, Torch is playing. Galisa's playing. That'll be fun. It'll be a great time. Steppenwolf? Yeah, Steppenwolf's playing. You guys are going to be there? We're going to be there? Yeah, obviously. Do you guys know what night you're playing? No, we don't. We don't even know where we're playing it, either. Tony was awesome for asking us to come back in this year. Oh, yeah. Speaking of which, how did that happen? Was Tony just like, ah, you guys played before? Like, how did that happen the first time?

Did you guys get set up with that? Um, I asked him, two years ago we were on tour, and Jared was like, oh, we had like a hole in our days, and Jared was like, oh, you know, this fest is going on, here's Tony's email. Because Scott's Honor was on No Idea, so they're friends. And so I emailed him, and I was like, hey, can we play this? And he was like, I've actually listened to you, I like your band, you can't play this year, because it's, you know, in two weeks, and we kind of lined this shit up a long time ago. And then just contacted him, and he's like, hit me up next year. So I did, and then this year they emailed us. Nice. You finally made it. We made it. Yeah. Big time. That's pretty sweet. We sent him a really nice framed photo of us, staring at the moon.

Yeah, we had these hilarious shots, these like Sears photo shots that we had on a day off last year on tour. So we sent Tony one of those. He's been a really, really awesome guy. Just like really supportive, and he kind of just found out about us through friends of ours, so. Nice. Yeah, I've heard nothing but good things about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's, I mean, like, I remember, like, growing up listening to like a bunch of the No Idea, like Plains of Secondary Stars, when they were on No Idea, it was like, that was like my thing. Nice. So. Cool. Well, hopefully you guys will figure out where you're going to play, and all that. Yeah. Wherever we're going to play, it's going to be a good time. Yeah. And we'll be seeing a bunch of bands.

I'm going to be bringing as many drunken people as I can. Hell yeah. With me to check that out. Thank you. That'd be great. Thank you. That's awesome. It should be a good time. Thanks, dude. Yeah, so we're good. Thanks, dude. Sweet. Thanks very much. And we'll wrap it up. Thank you guys for taking the time. It's my pleasure. This is great. Should we hug it out? Thanks. So that's the whole interview, and we only got one more song left by Low Red Land, so I want to thank them so much for taking the time. We met them in a Mexican restaurant, which I don't know if we know at any point in the interview, but it was really rad. I've never been to that place before. Did we mention it at the beginning? Oh, right, right, right.

And they were just super nice. Really hospitable guys. Super friendly. And hopefully I'll see them again and promote them and all that shit. And I'd like to take a moment to apologize for the huge rant on Warped Tour, not because Warped Tour deserves it, or they suck, but to Low Red Lands for taking like eight minutes of their interview show to rant on Warped Tour. I hope they forgive me. Again, we have, this is the last week we'll be running the Marathon, or Marathon, the Attica Attica Contest, where you can win two CDs from Marathon, an Attica Attica CD, the Red Leader 10-inch, and an Attica Attica t-shirt, some stickers, and some sampler CDs, all courtesy of the phenomenal Aaron Scott, who, just a great guy.

Actually, as much as we're not doing Warped Tour, we're doing almost like a Fest section right now, where last week we did the Emotron, he was at Fest, Aaron Scott's going to be at Fest, Low Red Lands is going to be at Fest, the next band, who I'm not going to say right now, is going to be at Fest. We have kind of a gag order on this next interview. It will get aired, and it'll be the next one we come up with, but other press outlets have priority on this one, and so we can't run it, otherwise we look like assholes. But, so tune in next week for a band you'll probably already know, but they're fun to hear anyway. Anyway, but thanks a ton to Low Red Lands, Low Red Land, rather. Check them out, go see them at Fest, I swear, see them at Fest, it's a great time, great time.

We'll be back next week, drop us a line, soundscenerevolution at gmail.com, at myspace backslash soundscenerevolution, here in our comments section, and yeah, one more track by Low Red Land, I hope you enjoy it, and we'll catch you guys next week, bye.

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