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Hi, this is Kyle from I Made This Mistake. Hello, I'm Neal Sutherland. And you're listening to Sound Scene Revolution.
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Hi, thanks for tuning in to Sound Scene Revolution. I'm Rich, here with you with a brand new episode. This week we feature a show with an interview with not one, but two brand new artists who I'm really excited for everybody to hear. The artists are Kyle of I Made This Mistake. His actual first name is Kyle William, but he goes by Kyle mostly because people think Kyle William is his first and last name. And our second guest taking part as well is Neal Sutherland, who also performs under the moniker Neal Sutherland and Friends. He is from Essex, which is not American, if you can guess, if you can't figure out by his accent, which is not based out of Ohio. Anyhow, so we're excited. They both came through here recently on their Bridging the Pond tour.
They got about two and a half to three more weeks or so of that tour. So check out our Made This Mistake's website or Neal Sutherland and Friends website for additional dates. What we're going to do is we have some stuff to give away. I'll run it down for you. From Mr. Neal Sutherland, we have his split with PJ and Gabby, which is called Be Realistic, Demand the Impossible. His most recent tour CD, which is called Neal Sutherland and Friends, 100 Faces, which is actually half acoustic, half electric with a band and everything. So it's kind of cool with that. And from Kyle, we have the newest album by I Made This Mistake, which is called Tomorrow We Start New 2. And what it is is it's a bunch of songs that Kyle had recorded probably four or five years ago.
And he went through and he re-recorded a bunch of the parts and he redid all the vocals and he redid some of the lyrics. And so it's kind of like a redone version of earlier work, but it's pretty good and it's fun to listen to. And we'll be playing cuts off of both of those, all three of them. Maybe not one of them, but at least two of them. All right, good. So be sure to listen to the end of our interview and we'll tell you how to enter that. First up, we're going to play a track by Neal Sutherland and Friends. We're going to play the track Run. Why not? We'll play the electric and then we'll play some acoustic stuff later. But this is run by Neal Sutherland and Friends off of 100 Faces. It's available on their tour and maybe somewhere on the internet.
Look into it. All right, we're going to bust into the interview right after the song. So stay tuned.
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and Neal Sutherland of You Don't Really Have a Band. No, it took me a long time to think of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's technically Neal Sutherland and Friends. Yeah, Neal Sutherland and Friends, but with no friends now. Wow. Oh, sorry. You lost all of your friends. You're out here with Kyle. That's kind of a easier friend, I hope. I'm just more of a translator personally. Yeah. So yeah, we're going to be doing a double interview today because you two are on tour together throughout all of America. And Canada. And Canada. How was that? That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. We did five days in Canada on the East and West Coast, so it was wicked exciting. Yeah. Any polar bears? No. Some igloos, though. Yeah. A few igloos, you know.
That's just how we roll. It's just par for the course in Canada. We had a really good time. We had some really interesting shows. We played at this community center in this place called Uxbridge. It was like this youth center. It was really cool, just small. Then we played at Peterborough at this bar called Osia after an entire day of just like sitting down watching someone drink themselves to like stupidity. Several people, actually. It was at least nine or ten people who just drank themselves ridiculous. They just sat there and drank all day? For about nine and a half to ten hours. We got there and they were like, okay, let's get some beer. And then they got some beer. And then these guys show up and they get out of their van.
And they show up and it takes two of them to lift this cooler. And they're walking this cooler all the way around the back of the house, up the porch, onto the porch. And they all look at us and one of these guys looks like he's in Leonard Skinner. And he opens the thing, he opens the cooler and it's just like brand new, probably, I would fair guess at $600 worth of like top shelf liquor. Literally full. Literally full. And then they just cracked it open and just started drinking and pretty much didn't stop. It was about 3.30 in the afternoon until about 10 when the show started. They just kept going. Was this another band or was these just guys who were there? Yeah, it was the guy running the show. You don't got to name names.
We're okay with that. It's not a good idea to piss off Canadian alcoholics. If I've learned one thing in life. Well, yeah, so Canada was a lot of fun. Then we got free tattoos, which was exciting. Yeah, we got paid in tattoos. What'd you get? I got an art from Look Mexico, 7-inch gas basp on my chest. And Jillian, who's also on tour with us, she runs the Honeyflo Zine Distro, got her first tattoo, which was like a sewing tattoo, which is pretty sweet and looks very nice. And I ducked out of it. Yeah. I ducked out and stayed there for five hours. And I watched Carl go from various stages to through various stages of disrepair. Going through the tattoo. Well, because, yeah, that's on your chest. I imagine that's not the easiest place to get tattooed.
Well, it was like we get there and we had a – she's like, okay, well, we'll do tattoos. And Jillian got her tattoos like an hour and a half. And then it's like, okay, it's my turn. And I'm kind of a hairy kid. So, like, we were just like, okay, well, Neil has clippers. He's got, like, an electric razor. And we were going to, like, electric razor out my chest and then, you know, use a Bic and just Bic it off and it would be fine. And then it would get tattooed. So, the electric razor didn't work no matter where we plugged it in. So, convenient. Nice. So, Neil had to use a Bic razor and Bic all of my chest hair off without any sort of clippers. And we're talking, like, inch-long strands. That's friendship. Yeah.
Yeah. I was never expecting anything like that ever to happen to me in my life.
You know, I feel like a shadow of my former self. He Bic's off all of my chest hair, which was just scary. And then I'm like, okay, well, chest tattoos. This is sweet. I've got a bunch of tattoos. And I'm like, I'm really happy. Like, I like tattoos. So, we get the stencil on and I'm just smiling. And there's, like, picture documentation of all this. I'm smiling. And then, like, the outline goes. And the second the first line gets on the chest, I'm just like, this was not a good decision. So, the outline comes and I'm just like, oh, this hurts. And then the black shading. And I was just like, oh. And then the coloring. And I was just dead at that point. Because that was a huge tattoo. Yeah. I mean, it's my entire chest.
And, like, there's collarbones. It kind of goes up to the neck. It was a painful experience. I'm glad that it happened. And, like, now that it's done and I'm really happy at how it looks. I mean, like, I love New Mexico. They're such a good band. Yeah. And they got good art. So, even if the band falls off, it's not going to be embarrassing. Josh, the guy who does the art in that band, the drummer, is, like, one of, I just, his, what the shit he comes up with, like, just out of his mind, it's just, it's amazing. I'm really, I'm always, I'm always awestruck by the stuff that he comes up with. Did a shirt design for you. Yep. He did the van design. Yeah. But, like, you know, that 7-inch just is such a good representation of Look Mexico.
Like, I feel like if someone wanted to introduce someone to Look Mexico, you could put on gas bass and you would get the whole idea of that band. So, it meant a lot to me and I'm glad it happened, but it sucked. How long did it take? It was from 11 p.m. to 4 a.m. Holy shit. It was five hours. We did the whole thing. Five hours of getting tattooed on your chest. Because, yeah, like, usually they break pieces like that up into, you know, well, we'll do the outline and then we'll do the coloring and then we'll do the shading. Not today. Yeah. One solid. With very little break as well. You didn't really have many breaks. I think it was, like, two cigarette breaks. But, like, literally for, like, ten minutes. Yeah.
Maybe. But there's some pretty hilarious pictures. It's well documented. Going through the various stages. Hopefully we can get some of those. So, I'll send them over to you for sure. I look forward to seeing some. I'll Facebook them to you. Aw. Are we Facebook friends? I just got my first Facebook after years of denying it. I just got one. I started one when I was drunk. It seemed like a really good idea. That's what they all say. It was. It seemed like, because, like, I have people who would send me, they're like, you should join Facebook. Like, I guess you can go through, like, all of your email addresses. And so, I was in their list. And it was like, oh, this person says you should join Facebook. And I was like, I don't need it.
And then one day I was drunk. And I'm like, I should. You are correct, email. I need a Facebook. Yeah. This is the email. That is the best idea you've ever had. Thank you, Matt Flood. Thank you so much. This is the best thing ever. Now I have a Facebook that I update once every four minutes. No, I update my Facebook maybe once every five days. Yeah, I hadn't had one. I'd never had one. And then I just kind of got one. Fuck you to the peer pressure. Yes. Exactly. I was peer pressure. You're already too late. It's Twitter now, man. Oh, fuck. Facebook's over. People couldn't think of enough funny things to write on Facebook. So now they can just do Twitter. 140 letters or less, man. Yeah. It's great. You don't have to actually think of anything.
Just whatever you're doing. And it was like, that's what's up. So before, let's get back onto the music and what you guys do. How did you guys meet up? Because you guys have known each other clearly before this tour. And you live on two different continents. Yeah. That's in case people can guess. Neil does have an accent. And yeah, just on a side note of that, when we were in, I can't remember where it was. We were in Lansing, Michigan. Lansing, Michigan. Okay. So we just played in Ohio the night before in Toledo, Ohio. And a guy in Lansing came up to me at the show and he was like, oh, I really recognize your accent. Whereabouts in Ohio are you from? Yeah. Look, I've been confused for being Australian, like from New Zealand, Scotland, Ireland.
You know, all of which, you know, I can see. More similar than... To the untrained ear. Especially being two hours from Ohio where he was from. Like, yeah, that was pretty, yeah. From the best part of Ohio. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. So me and Kyle met two, one and a half, two years ago? It was two years ago. Two years ago. Yeah. Kyle was on tour with our friend PJ, who plays with PJ and Gabby. And Kyle was on tour with them. And you'd met PJ once before that? Yeah, we... I met PJ... That was like the second time I went on tour in Europe. I'd gone May that year. It was May 2007 is when I met PJ and Gabby, which are our friends from London. And I played a show with him and we had a really good time. And then we started talking more on to intranets and decided...
That Facebook I didn't have. But we decided to do a tour. So we did like a month-long tour and I met Neil. Yeah, we met... We played like two or three shows together, I think. And then... Well, we met the first time in a place called Reading. I've heard of that place. There you go. It's pretty famous. Yeah. Pretty famous. They have a festival going on over there. I think it just happened. It's very uniquely named. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They took about as long to think of that as I did to think of my band name. They didn't even have and friends. Yeah, exactly. Reading Festival and friends, yeah. It's just Reading Festival. Lazy bastards. Yeah, so when I met Carl, like... You know when you meet people the first time and it's just...
You know you're going to... Just love at first sight. Yeah. Oh, good. He was trying to avoid saying that. Yeah, I was. I was trying to think of a way to go around that, but it was inevitable. Now I'm throwing it in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's out in the open. Yeah. The 500-pound elephant in the room. Whatever it is. Nice. So yeah, and then we played a few shows together then. And I came out last year on tour on the East Coast and stayed with Carl and Jillian for like five days and hung out at a fest. And yeah. And then again, the magic of Google Talk and various other mediums. Yeah, and like April this year came around and I was getting ready to do some touring plans and stuff. And I like called Neil and asked him if he wanted to come spend 45 days because Neil's getting ready to do a PhD.
And... Let's drop it in there. Hey. In case you're wondering, he's way smart. He's wicked smart. He's going to be Dr. Sutherland and friends. Yeah, Dr. Sutherland and friends. Can you please change your bandage? That would be hilarious but terrible. Dr. Neil Sutherland and friends. It sounds like a daytime talk show. I like it. We were having that conversation where it was like, you know, you were going into school in October and we weren't going to get to see you for a while. So we decided to do the Bridging the Pond tour, which I brought him over for 45 days and we're going to do it again next year except over in... We're going to do it over in Europe. Over in my land. Over in the other continent. Yeah. Other western area.
The place, not America. And then I think we're talking about the year after going to Australia and Japan and New Zealand and doing it there and just kind of continuing. Which is where I'm from, incidentally. Japan? Australia, New Zealand. Ireland. We just want to continue on with it and keep doing it as much as we can. Nice. Very cool. Has it been hard at all? I mean, trying to work out the logistics of getting the two of you around or is it... I mean, you guys are basically riding in an SUV at the time, right? Yeah. I mean, tour, it's kind of a simple formula with a lot of complexities to it. It's just like, okay, first deal is getting plane tickets. Second deal is booking tour. Third deal is making sure we have a car and I own a car.
So, it was kind of a simple... Way to sell out, dude. Yeah. Nice, fancy American car. No, it's not American. One less car.
You should burn it. Yeah, I'm going to burn my car. We'll be able to get to our next show. That'd be awesome. Anyhow. But, yeah, I mean, between... So, it seems like there's parts of it that would be easier, but, I mean, at the same time, it's basically the two of you booking 42, 45 dates across. Just one man? Yeah. Wow. Always the man. Thanks for the help, Neil. I'm just lazy. Yeah, cock. Not helping at all. So, I'm just going to toss this out there. Neil's developed a second personality while being on tour with us. That personality is. Its name is Trigger. Right. Okay. I don't know where this, like, even started. Like, I don't know when it first came out. It's because you pull that Jim Gaffigan thing where, like, you...
Every, like, at the end of every, like, joke or comment, you, like, deflect it by, like, talking in a low voice as the other person and saying what they're thinking. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I think that might be it. Yeah. And then we just kind of gave it a name. Yeah. And then there was... Yeah, there was one day where I was like, this guy needs a name. And I'm referring to it as a guy now. You know? There's no hope. There's no hope for me. Me and Trigger. And his name is Trigger. And his name is Trigger. So, there's four of us on tour, technically. Four. Hello. He just... He pops out every once in a while. It's amazing. I just wanted to get him on... But he doesn't get a cut of the door, right? No, actually, Trigger.
Yeah, we're three touring acts. Trigger muscles it out of us a lot. I wake up in the middle of the night getting punched in the face. Give me your money.
I'd do it. If I heard that voice and I woke up in the middle... Intimidating. My gosh. I know. You got a good, deep voice. You can make that work for you. I like that. And the funniest thing about it is, like, Neil's genuinely, like, the nicest person of all time. He's been nice thus far. I have no reason to dislike him, yet. Like, he's a sweet... The yet is important. Yeah. The yet. Just wait until tomorrow when I piss on your carpet. Coming back from Santa Cruz over here. We're driving back from Santa Cruz tonight just to pee on the floor. Just to piss on my carpet. I appreciate it. See you later, Rich. I appreciate that. Good looking out. But, um... Oh, yeah. You were saying he was such a nice guy. He's just... He's such a great guy, so it's just really funny to have this, like...
There had to be something weird to go on on a studio over here. Trigger's the best. Oh, you're so lucky.
Well, it sounds like you guys are keeping yourselves busy. So, what have you guys got music-wise on the tour? I know you have two new things. Do you got anything new, or are you just pushing the same old shit?
Oh, by the way, the first one was directed to Kyle. The same old shit was directed to Neil. I realized people listening couldn't see my finger move. But, anyhow. I've actually... I've got a pretty much brand new... I went on tour just a week before I came away with friends. That was an electric tour. Wow. And we just got a new five track out. Nice. And then for this tour, I've done it. It's like a five track electric, and then five other acoustic tracks. It's like a couple of covers, a couple of original ones. There's actually seven. Seven acoustic tracks. I thought there was six. No. I mean... How do you know more than he does about his own album? Because I'm the guy who pawns off all the merch at the end of the day.
Trigger's out-wrestling the money out of the venue. Trigger goes and beats up the bouncer and just standing. We may like to buy a record. 12 inches for eight bucks. So miserable.
It's a good time. Yeah, 100 Faces is a really good EP. So that's the... Yeah, that's the new one. So that's got like... Yeah, it's half and half. And then another like sort of full-length-ish album. And an old album with PJ and Gabby. It's our link. Ah, so that's how you guys met. Yeah. Do you guys not talk to them anymore? No, we're best friends, but I don't know what happened to them. PJ and Gabby are still in... They're in England right now, living and being happy. They've got an electric band too. It's funny, all of these like within a year and a half, like all of the like folk, UK folk and a bunch of the like US like folk and I guess quote-unquote folk punk, which I don't really like that term, but there's no other thing to call it for the moment.
Acoustic punk acts have all seemed to have just kind of gone electric real quick. Yeah. Like everybody's put out an electric record at this point. PJ and Gabby, who were just used to be like a guitar and a recorder, now play with a backing band. Wow, that's awesome. It's really like... They've done a really, really great job of doing it. People got tired, man. They were like, this is the solo shit, son. I'm so lonely. I need someone to hang out with on tour. But yeah, so on tour for me, I've got... I still have the It's Okay LP and cassette. And then I've got a... A few years ago, I released a CD called Tomorrow We Start New, which was like my first full length. I released it in like 2006 or 2005. It was a while ago.
And in April, I was just kind of... I listened to it for the first time in like six or seven months. And I realized that I felt like it didn't represent how I wanted those songs to be. There was some weird reverb on it. I sounded like I was like 14 or 15 in the vocals. When you were really like 16. Yeah, exactly. So you know that's scary. You needed to mature. I was unhappy with the final product and I thought that it should have been done better. So I went back in over... What was it? The July... Was it July? Yeah. July 4th weekend. I flew from Rhode Island to Florida. And I went in the studio with George, the guy who I've worked with on almost every record I've done. And I redid the vocals. I rewrote a bunch of the lyrics.
Remixed and mastered the whole thing. We got brand new artwork for it. So it's called Tomorrow We Start New Too. And it just came out on September 1st. So we've got that on tour, which I'm really excited about. Because I do feel like that represents how I wanted those songs to come out. It's like a different track listing. And I'm happy with it. Nice. And I also did... I just kind of... I have these four new acoustic songs that I didn't really know what to do with. And I really wanted to have them for the tour. So I put them out on a cassette on my friend Paul's label from Providence. It's called Tour Johnson Records. So it's a cassette. And on one side, there's four new acoustic songs. And on the other side, there is a bunch of live tracks spanning back from 2004 chronologically going up to 2009.
That's great. Yeah. So that's called Different Ghosts. And I just have it on tour. It's just a little tour cassette that you got. It's just a little tour cassette that I have going on. So we're going to just take a quick break there. Bring you guys a little bit more music from either... Sorry, I almost said Kyle Sutherland. Neil Sutherland or Kyle of I Made This Mistake. We're actually going to play a track off of I Made This Mistake's new album, Tomorrow We Start New 2. And we're going to play the track My Sins because it's not by any means. It's probably one of the more well-known I Made This Mistake songs that appeared on the original Tomorrow We Start New. It appeared on his last 12-inch It's Okay. And so it's kind of fun to listen to the different versions of this one.
And so this is another take on it. It's one of my favorite songs that he's done. And again, we have a chance at the end of this to win a copy of Tomorrow We Start New. The PJ and Gabby and Neil Sutherland split Be Realistic, Demand, The Impossible. And the Neil Sutherland and Friends CD called 100 Faces, which is, again, half acoustic, half electric. And yeah, so we're going to play My Sins by Kyle of I Made This Mistake. And then we're going to wrap up the interview. A lot of really good stuff on this interview. It's probably one of the most fun interviews I've had. So be sure to listen to it all. And we'll catch you guys at the end. All right. Bye.
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I can name probably three vinyl pressing plants off the top of my head. I have no idea where you get a cassette done other than just dubbing over old Hall & Oates cassettes. We were at a place. I can't remember where it was. But someone was giving out cassettes. But they were like, they'd overdubbed them. And it was like, it was clearly all their old, like, well, it was like the 90s. It was a Kiss cassette with, like, whiteout over it. Yeah, it was like Shaquille O'Neal's. Dude, that's the best part. You know that band Delay? There's a band called Delay. They're on Planet X Records. They're from Columbus, Ohio. They started this thing called In-The-Pocket Tapes. And they're doing really, like, they have, like, a hundred tapes for a hundred dollar deal.
Like, they're really, they've got a lot of love for the cassette format. And they've been doing a really good job. But, too, I will do all of my cassettes through. But, yeah, they run through Shout Out Loud prints. They're called In-The-Pocket Cassettes. It's definitely worth checking out if you're ever interested in putting other cassettes. But it works as well, because most people have got a cassette player, like, even if not in the house. Like, most people have got, like, cassette players in their cars. Oh, yeah. And plus, we put them with vinyl downloads, so it works out well. Yeah, so it works out. Downloads in MP3s. But, yeah, I was going to say, like, the only other cassette I bought recently was Reviver.
Matt from Laderman's Band up in Washington. And it's the same deal. It's an old cassette that they spray-painted over and dubbed over. And so I have no idea what the original cassette was, but you can see very clearly. Except for the little parts where Freebird comes out. Yeah, every once in a while. Like, because, you know, it's a punk album, so it's probably, it's like 10 minutes. I shouldn't listen to it all the way through. Well, I had, like, a really shitty, shitty cassette player that didn't work too well. So I got, I started, and I was like, I'm going to wait for the 7-inch. But, maybe now I'll go listen to it and see what's on that cassette that they've dubbed over. Maybe it's worth it just for that.
It's probably a G-Giles Band record. I can only hope. My blood runs cold. I'm lucky. Probably, I would, if I was putting money on it, I'd go ACDC. ACDC? I was at a record store, like, last week, and they had a shit ton of ACDC cassettes. If I were to put my money on odds, I would probably say Michael Jackson. There's probably more cassettes of his than anybody else out there. Probably. That or Striper. The hair metal band. The Christian hair metal band. Oh, my God. They're so good. Fingers crossed you've got that on the cassette. Oh, God. Maybe a compilation of all. Of all the great Striper hands. But, oh, I hope not. But, yeah, I guess Michael Jackson would be an even guess. I mean, that was right around when vinyl was going down and cassettes were coming up.
And before the rise of CDs, I had Thriller on cassette. It was a magical time in my life. You got it right when it came out. You were wearing one glove. Yeah. Could you not get the money out of your wallet? There's nothing better than a six- and an eight-year-old kid in the backyard dancing to Thriller. Like, that's what Michael Jackson said. That was the whole reason he wrote that album. It worked. Now he's dead. It was his life goal. Can't make fun of him anymore. No, it's never too soon to catch a photo.
Chris Hansen's so pissed off at this point. He had it easy. They could come to his house. If some kid was like, why don't you come here? Michael Jackson's like, why don't you come here? I got a Ferris wheel. Yeah, he's like, I got an amusement park in the backyard. If you don't want to come here, you're clearly not a real child. This is clearly a sting operation.
Huh. So, I'm sorry I got distracted by my dog for a little bit. Very cute dog. Sounds not edible. Yeah, we're in my house, which is probably where two interviews have ever taken place. And my dog's here, which is weird, because normally she freaks out, but... This is my second interview with you, and this is the second time I've been in your place of residence. Yeah, as it were. The hotel at the fest. Yeah, the hotel at the fest. And we did that, that was after you played at my hotel, wasn't it? That was Sunday. Yeah, that was late Sunday. Yeah, when your voice was more or less demolished. I'm a homeschooler. That was me. And I was more or less hungover. You were just... Sounds like it was a great interview. It was alright.
It was not the worst I've done, for sure. Thanks. Hey. Appreciate it. You're not the worst person I've spoken with. Who is the worst person you've spoken with, Richard? I'd love to know this. I can say pretty openly, the worst interview I've ever had was with me first in the Gimme Gimmies. Really? Yeah, not because they were bad. They were what they were, but Fat Mike fucking was in a mood, and absolutely ripped me a new asshole that night. Really? Yeah. But I mean, that's what he does. And so I'm sure everyone listening was like, oh, that's Fat Mike. That's what he does. But for me being there, getting fucking just ripped apart, I was like, this fucking blows. I don't want to do this interview anymore. I was like on the brink of tears.
I'm laughing, but on the inside, I'm just like, this fucking sucks. I'm so busy. It's what he does. If he did it to someone else, I think it'd be funny. And he did it to me, and I'm sure it was funny to other people. But being there at the moment, it fucking blew. So now you know. Cheers. That's the worst interview that I've ever done. So as long as I'm a very fragile person, as long as you don't insult me. I'll make sure Trigger stays away. I appreciate that. Oh, you're a creep, Sutherland. Aww. So what have you guys got planned for the rest of the tour? How far are you guys going out to? Well, we're going all the way from here. We're going basically down to San Diego. And then we're going to cut across sort of diagonally, going via Richmond and Virginia Beach, and then back up to our flight of Boston.
So we're going back up to our last shows in Providence on the 29th. Oh, wow. So you finish it off in Rhode Island. Oh, yeah. So you pretty much like can go, you go home after that, he has to get on a plane. Was that planned out? Yeah, yeah. My journey is somewhat longer. Yeah, you're trying to get to news, my friends. Yeah, we drive. Sorry. Yeah, it's okay. We're watching September 11th, the best of all day on TV. The best of. We're watching September 11th's greatest hits on VH1 right now. History Channel has decided to do an entire day dedicated to September 11th. The same tracks by ACDC. Yes. And Kyle was just silenced by the image of a computer-generated plane crashing into a computer-generated World Trade Center.
Just because it looks so, like, I'm not going to get into September 11th conspiracy theories. That's a bad idea. You've been into them a lot lately. I know. It's just, I don't understand. You spend too much time on the internet. I don't. Yeah. I don't. I do. I really do. You were watching Razor Ramon on Jerry Springer a few minutes ago. Best video I've ever seen in my life. That is probably the most fantastic video ever to come into existence. These two little 10-year-olds who both had AIDS got married on Jerry Springer. Yeah. I'm not. This is real. They were 10. They were 10 years old and they got married on Jerry. Yes. If your parents sign off. Yep. They got married and they had AIDS and then the kid's favorite wrestler was Razor Ramon.
So, and this is in, like, obviously the early 90s. So, Razor Ramon comes out with his Intercontinental Championship belt and his slick back hair and greasy gold chains and he walks through the crowd and sits down and, like, gives a motivational speech. I thought you were going to say he's going to be the priest or something. Oh. That would have been also fantastic. But, yeah. So, it's a WWE wrestler giving a weird motivational speech to two 10-year-olds with AIDS who got married. Who got married. That's just a situation. That's like a mad lib. That's like a mad lib. That is definitely a real-life bad. Name a famous wrestler. Razor Ramon. Name a terrible condition. I don't know. AIDS. Pick an age. 10. I'm like, pick a, you know, pick an action that two people can do.
Get married. Two 10-year-olds get married, or two 10-year-olds with AIDS get married on Jerry Springer with Razor Ramon. Like, someone just fucking made that up. God. TV's amazing. Kyle's still transfixed by 9-11. We got to wrap this interview up so you can watch some 9-11. No, I don't want to. I'm torn away from it. Sorry, I don't have a TV, so I get amazed sometimes. You don't have a TV? No. Oh. What kind of third-world shit is that? This is America. Jillian and I live in the middle of the woods on a bus, so we don't exactly have electricity. Really? Yeah. How's that go? It's a lot of fun. I miss having a kitchen. Yeah, I would imagine. And a toilet. Where do you go to the bathroom? Nah. This is a sore subject. Again, something I never thought would happen in my lifetime.
Care to explain, Kyle? Yeah, you have to. Yeah, because I can't leave that open. No way. You want to talk about chest shaping? That's fine, mate. That's fine. You want to bring up Trigger? All right, cool. I'm going to bring up your shit in a bucket. Sweet.
I guess that answers that question. God, that was amazing. Thank you, Neil. I'm not actually explaining that. There's no chance. There's no... There are? All right. We'll discuss off-air, and then I'll bring it up. Yeah, good idea. I'll say it on-air, but... Smart. Yeah. That's how... That's what I do. That's how I operate. So, uh... Oh, I'm sorry. Keeping it classy. Yeah. Nah, don't worry. No one listens. Your mom probably leaves to... Well, maybe your mom. The sound guy's not even here. You won't even listen. I know, the real sound guy and airman was like... I was like, we're doing an interview. He's like, with who? I'm like, Kyle and Neil. And he's like, fuck those guys. Yeah. He's like, I got shit. Yeah, he was like, I got shit to do.
And I'm like, he's like, is it Neil Sutherland with friends? I'm like, no friends. He's like, yeah, no friends. Yeah. Yeah, no sound guy. Yeah. Fuck. He's like, you're goddamn right, no friends. Fuck that. Actually, he has things to do. He's important. I do have to say my favorite thing about being on the West Coast so far was being able to play at 924 Gilman last night. Oh. That was a dream come true. Seriously, though, like, 924 Gilman Street's always been one of those places, like, I've always just, like... I know that feels the same for Neil. We've always just, like, heard about and always, like, I've heard all the stories and heard all of the crazy, just, times, and it's amazing. Like, and we got to play there last night, and it was just phenomenal.
It's kind of surreal to think about now. Like, because I always used to read about that, like, when I was into bands when I was younger, like Rancid and Operation Ivy, and I used to read about them playing at this place. Yeah. I never, ever thought I would... You'd get the opportunity to. Like, even go and see it. Yeah. And to actually play there, to think that we've actually played at 924, it's pretty crazy. It's pretty amazing. I mean, and the roster of bands who have come through there, I mean, it's like a rite of passage, pretty much. Like, I mean, everybody I can... I mean, popular bands now from Propagandhi, Tragedy, Dillinger 4, like, all bands who are well-known now have all, I mean... I made this mistake.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You got... Everybody. Green Day, Rancid, they're all in the same band. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We are pretty much the same. But yeah, I mean, it's continued as, like, a rite of passage, that if you get the opportunity to come through and you get to play Gilman Street, you obviously, everybody goes for it. It's pretty, it's... No, no, I can... Yeah. I played a Gilman, whatever. What? It's all right. I thought it was a tanning room.
Inside, I'm just screaming like a little girl. Oh, my God. But it's an all right place. I mean, like I said, it's entirely inconspicuous from the front, but on the inside, it looks exactly like, fucking punk rock epitomized. It's always really strange going to those places, well, because we were speaking to the sound, the lady doing sound? We were speaking to someone outside, and Cole was like, oh, have you got over the fact, you know, that it's 94 Gilman Street, you do sound there. And she was like, well, I've never really even considered it, like, because I grew up there, whereas for me, like, I've only ever heard of it, only ever seen pictures of it. So, to actually be standing outside it, like, it's the same as going to all those sort of venues.
Yeah. Went to ABC No Rio in New York last year, and it was the same kind of thing. Like, all the kids there, they go, that's where they go for their shows. Yeah, yeah. For me, you know, I never thought I'd see it, let alone, like, play or whatever. So, yeah, it's always really interesting to see that kind of... Yeah. It is. It's definitely one of those things where, if you live here, it's a lot of people just take it for granted, they're like, yeah, it's Gilman Street, and there's a book and a movie made about it, people have written songs about it, like, you don't really think about how important it is for a lot of people. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad you guys got a play there, and I'm glad you guys got a show, at least, you know.
That was good. I mean, what a show, eh? Yeah. It's not like we were just playing randomly at Gilman Street, we were playing with, like, Hanalei. Yeah, played with Brian Moss, Jeff Ott, and Wayne. I don't know Wayne's last name. Stahl. Stahl? Stahl, that's kind of unimpressive. I feel bad. I feel bad. No, because Wayne, okay, Wayne is a very unique guy, and Wayne is kind of an unusual name for, like, a lot of people. It's not a real standard first name. I mean, it is, I mean, it's not like, you know... Michael. Yeah. It's a little more out there. And Wayne is, he's a very different guy. So, Stahl, I was kind of expecting something a little more grandiose. I'm a little let down. He goes by Wayne Arms. Wayne Arms? That's a little better.
I like that. Well, I mean, come on, like, you see him. He's an interesting looking dude. He's a great dude. He's a good dude. I love that kid. I like him a lot. He's got huge stretched ears. Seven inch plugs. That shit looks unbelievable. The biggest I've seen. I could put probably a good portion of my hand through Wayne's ear, and that kind of trips me out a lot. I would probably... You got fat fingers, though. You could probably fit, like, three of them through. Yeah. And I could probably, like, if I crimped down, like... If you crimp Shrine. Yeah. Oh. Oh, get it? Because we played with him on it. I see what you did there. But, like, no, he's a really good dude. I always want to... Whenever I see him, I kind of want to ask, like, do you ever get it caught on shit?
Like, have you ever gotten, like, a tree branch through your ear hole? But I'm like... That's kind of it. Like, I don't mean it in a condescending way. Like, I'm a little... I had an eyebrow ring for fucking a year. And it literally almost got ripped out by a tree branch. I literally almost walked into a tree branch, and I had the little fucking awesome loop in it. And the tree branch almost, like, caught it. And I was like, ugh. Like, I did the little thing where I had to stop and, like, lean way back. So I have to imagine when giant fucking holes in your ears, that might happen. I have, like, two nose rings. I have two rings in my right nostril and one on my left. And I have a habit of getting them caught in Jillian's hair.
And, like, all the time. How romantic. It's like, oh, shit. Stay still.
I'm glad I have never had that happen. That would be... That seems like it'd be a little painful for everybody involved. Maybe we should just take those out. So what number Sound Scene Revolution is this? 108? 106? We're up there. It's a pretty magic number, isn't it? We don't care. We just kind of do whatever. I don't know. I felt if we cared, we would have quit at this point. Can you do me a favor? Can you promise me that I can be number 187? No. Please. That's, like, 80 episodes off. Like, that's five... Like, that's at least five more years. I've listened to a lot of, like, 90s gangster rap. And that's your ultimate goal in life? Is to be number 187. If we make it 420, we'll call you up, too.
Which, honestly, I'll be 70 by that point. Hey, Kyle. Come down, man. We made it. I haven't played music. We made it for you. I haven't played music in 10 years. I'm a teacher. I'm a stockbroker now. I gave up the punks. Gave up the punks. You still live in a bus, though. Still live in a bus. 60-year-old Kyle will be a stockbroker in a bus. This is my goal for you. Saving all of my money. It's funny because you're Jewish.
Racism! It's all this 9-11 stuff that's going on. I know. It's bringing out, you know... All this 9-11 have to do with... Oh, I guess it does have to do with racism. I'm just kidding. Not necessarily with Judaism, but... Yeah, I don't know the link this way. I'm sure if we talked to Jeff Ott, he could tell us what the link would be. Aww.
No, he has that song that's like 20 minutes long where he links all of American history. No, the song is 2 minutes long. The introduction is 18 minutes long. That song was pretty long, too. We'll mail somebody the songbook. If you write in, we'll have a contest. If you write in and you win the contest, I'll include the Jeff Ott songbook. And by the Jeff Ott songbook, we mean every song he played last night. Last night. He gave out a lyric sheet. Like, if you've ever been to church, because I was raised Roman Catholic, they give you the missile, and it has all of the songs and all of the sermons, and you open it up, and they're like, turn to number 425. That was Jeff Ott's missile right there. That's a really good way of describing it.
That is very true. It was very much like Catholic Church, where it was like, if you turn to the next song, then I'm going to be singing. This one's too long to be a song. And it was, but it was a song, sort of. It was too long. Yeah. So, you know. 38 minutes later. I'll include that with whatever I send you. So, congratulations. There were only like 40 made for this show. And he makes them for every show, apparently. Because this one. Yeah, so you collectors, it's out of 40. Yeah. Exactly. It's out of 40, and Jeff Ott touched it. I watched him as he took him out of a bag and handed him to people. And I got one. So. And you're going to give it away. And I'm going to give it away, because I don't read readings for fucking suckers.
That's right, literate people of the world. Fuck you guys. Fuck education. You and your books. I will say the one song, he did the song where he said, if you can keep up with this, you can read it, like, I don't know, an acceptable level or whatever. I kept up. Me too. Me too. Like, in my head. He was actually reading faster than he was singing. Yeah, I was trying not to go to the next line, because I was like, no, no, I don't want to do that and, like, you know, mess it up. I want to read as he's going. And I was like, I did it. And, like, in my head, I was like, fuck yeah. I'm totally literate. Jeff Ott loves me. I can read. Suck it. All right. I think we're going to wrap this up. Sounds good. Awesome. Anything else you guys want to say?
This will probably go up, actually, like, three days. Wicked. Which will be, like, the fastest turnaround we've had. Well, we're currently on tour as of this podcast being aired. But if you're listening to this a year from now, we are not on tour. Yeah, when's the last day of tour? The 29th of September is our last show in Providence, Rhode Island. So, if you're listening after the 29th of September 2009, you're fucked. You've missed it. You've missed it. Unless you want to listen, and they're actually in England at the time. Next year. That's true. Yeah. Our dates are on both of our MySpaces, which is Neil Sutherland and Friends. And I made this mistake. That was nice. That was totally in plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's what we do every night. It's like a double comedy duo. That's actually all we do. You've been hanging out too long together. We're also on tour with Jillian, who does the Honeyflozine distro, which is a really awesome literature. Definitely come check it out. Almost all of the... I think every show we're playing is a free or donations-based show. It's some sort of community space, so please feel free to come.
Yeah. That's pretty much all we got. Excellent. Well, I want to thank you guys so much for taking the time. Thank you for having us. Good luck with the rest of the tour and getting your PhD and bucket shitting. Good luck with all that. Bye-bye.
So that's the whole interview. I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was a ton of fun to do. Both Neil and Kyle are really, really great guys, and they're great house guests, really. They kept the house really clean. They were very polite. They didn't smell too much. A little bit, but I think that's just road wear and tear. And they're just really fantastic guys. It really bums me out that Neil's going to go get a PhD, so he won't be coming back to America for probably like four years. But, you know, you never can tell. But hopefully in four or five years he'll come back, and we'll get to see him play again. That'd be good for America. I don't want to say the best thing that could happen to America, but probably a pretty good thing.
Anyhow, as I mentioned, we have CDs to give away by Neil Sutherland and by Kyle of I Made This Mistake. The CDs we have are the PJ and Gabby Neil Sutherland split called Be Realistic, Demand the Impossible. The Neil Sutherland and Friends CD called 100 Faces, which is five electric songs and then five acoustic songs. And then the CD by I Made This Mistake, which at this point is, I believe most of this is just Kyle. I know there's a couple other guest artists on it, but it's mostly Kyle. And it's called Tomorrow We Start New 2, which is a collection of songs Kyle had written and recorded about four years ago. And then he went back this year and re-recorded a bunch of the vocals, a bunch of the instruments, rewrote some of the lyrics.
So it's kind of a, if you will, a look back on his work and kind of how he would do it now. And it's pretty fun, especially if you've ever listened to any of I Made This Mistake's other stuff. It's a really complimentary piece to a lot of it. And that sounded so highfalutin, such bullshit, but it's true. I'm not always so full of my own shit. But, all right, anyhow, as I mentioned, we will be giving away all three of these CDs to someone who really wants them. How you're going to do it is you're going to enter and you're going to send us an email, soundscenerevolution at gmail.com. It's on our website. And, excuse me, put Kyle and Neil Sutherland contest in the subject line or just Kyle sub, or Kyle contest or Neil Sutherland contest, either or.
And what we're going to do is we're going to make, just to make sure that you listen, I want you to include your name, your information, your address, your phone number, your email. Don't worry, we've never, ever, ever given away anyone's email for anything, ever. It's, I'd feel like such a dick if I sold your stuff. Besides, we only get like maybe, I think, 30 of these, like 30 entries. And so we wouldn't make much money if we sold them off anyway. But anyhow, so send us all your information to soundscenerevolution at gmail.com. And so Kyle and Neil are both part of other bands as well as solo acts. So I want you to think of, you can name someone who's part of another band and a solo act, or you can just make up what you think would be the best name for a musician and solo act.
For example, there's Tim Berry and Avail. And, you know, there's a ton of them. Every, like, aging punk rocker has a solo group now. But just not necessarily the ones that you like the most, but the ones that you think have the best name. For example, we did Aaron Scott of Marathon, who now performs under the moniker Attica Attica. So, yeah, be a branch out there. Put some time into it. Put some thought into it. Put a little effort. It won't really impact whether you win or not because it's at random, but it always helps us feel better, you know? All right, so thanks for tuning in. I know you could have been out there twittering about Kanye and Taylor Swift at the Video Music Awards, but instead you were here listening to this.
I'll be honest with you, I have yet to see that clip, but I just hear Kanye West is a douche. And, well, I don't know if you're aware. That's kind of obvious by now. So, good job, America, for figuring that out. We're going to leave you guys with a track by Neil Sutherland. I'm going to go with an acoustic cover that he does because I think it's kind of fun. I know a few people who have covered this song, and it's always just interesting to see their take on it. So, it's Neil Sutherland covering Hey Yaw by OutKast off of the 100 Faces album, which he has now on tour. Look it up. Be sure to see them all. Send us emails. Tons of emails at soundscenerevolution.com. Anything you guys want to know, anything you want to ask, anything you want to recommend, just people we interview, things we should do, questions we should ask, just let us know.
We're always more than happy to get some feedback, and we try to be responsive. Sound Guy and Airman checks them all and forwards the ones that are pertinent to me and responds to the other ones because, let's be honest, behind this operation, Sound Guy and Airman is the balls. He is the scrotum and the taint that holds this show together. I'm just kind of the asshole. All right, so send us emails. All right, we're going to leave you. This is Neil Sutherland performing Hey Yaw off of the 100 Faces album. Enjoy. We'll catch you guys next week. Thanks so much for listening. Bye.
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