Interview with O Pioneers!!! - Podcast 111

cool hey this is eric from opioneers uh just a really shitty interview on sound scene revolution

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in this week we are back from the fest we have a special series of fest related interviews um and this is the second time i had to record this i got to call sound guy named him and out he uh fucked up on the original recording so we're having to do it again uh no offense he usually like 99 i think this is the only time actually he's ever made a mistake so like every other time it's on me so i gotta call him out when he does it anyhow so series of fest interviews we went to fest we tried to set up a bunch of interviews i think we talked to like 40 bands we got and they were all like every band was really cool about getting the interview they were all like oh yeah we'd love to do it just come and meet us and blah blah blah well it's fest it's three days it's the 80 billion square miles that is gainesville florida and it's 300 bands and it it doesn't pan out all the time so out of all the bands who we got to agree to do it uh we got three people who uh agree or who we actually got so i i think the first year we had only andrew jackson jihad maybe and so this year we got three if we get three i feel that's one each day that's pretty good anyhow the first uh one we're going to run in the series is eric solomon of o pioneers uh i'm really stoked on this because i really like o pioneers and uh i'm a big fan and we've been trying to get eric on here for like three years literally since fest six we've been trying to set it up and for one reason or another conflicts um and whatnot it's just never panned out and so i'm really excited to have him on there we got the interview i shit you not uh 2 30 a.m uh on sunday night monday morning last day of the fest they had just played i was kind of drunk he was losing his voice so it's probably uh as eric said in the introduction it's probably a terrible interview but i think it's worth noting worth listening to um so we're gonna start before we get into the interview oh contest we're gonna run a contest this week for two copies of o pioneers albums we're gonna be giving away their two full lengths neon creeps and black mambas on vinyl and uh along with that we still have other contests running we have the camaraderie contest for a copy of burn your bones i think they're maybe gonna be doing a wolf ticket too and then a t-shirt all the details are in the camaraderie interview um by the way my camaraderie review just got posted on punk news four out of five stars and everyone agrees because it's an amazing album anyhow so um after i'm done plugging uh my own work uh and we're gonna have a contest for o pioneers so listen to the end of this interview and we'll tell you how to enter to win and you can win two copies of their or two different albums by those guys and it'll be great so uh other than that we're gonna start with some music we're gonna start with uh dead city sounds off of their latest full length uh neon creeps and then we're gonna go into the interview and we'll be

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the second interview tonight so congratulations yes we got justin uh fuck that guy fucking no justin's awesome like yeah i don't know i don't know what else to say besides you don't want to be me no i like i genuinely like i love justin like uh he is my favorite part of going to chicago and i was first met justin his friend actually set up a show and justin was just like taking tons of pictures it's like i don't like i couldn't even remember justin's name and i asked his friend if uh his friend's name was chris and i asked his friend if he would put out our record on vinyl not knowing that he didn't really do the label like justin did it and uh like as a joke the next time i went to chicago uh after justin already agreed to do it we we signed and quote making quotations uh we signed a contract by eating pizza and it's kind of like that's been a tradition going it going here justin eating some uh chicago pizza that's a good tradition yeah it's pretty sweet oh in case i didn't introduce marty this is eric solomon hey i lost my voice i'm sorry if it's that is your last name right yeah okay i want to make sure yeah well we had justin in here and i was realized i was like i don't know your last name i know he was justin i i can never uh i can never ever spell his name right so i stopped trying like when i send a mail i'm just like schwinn or like you know like anything yeah exactly because for a long time i would always spell it wrong and you get very mad at me so yeah it's just easier not to try exactly nice nice so um i guess we should talk about the history of your band uh basically the way the band started was i had moved to texas after dropping out of college and i was working at a barnes and noble and that's where i met my first drummer jeff we worked together in the music department and i had just gotten the stolen demos sorry that's okay something was making some noise maybe it was my phone i don't know i'm gonna put my phone on airplane mode um yeah i don't know so we worked in the music department together and i just heard like the stolen demos from me against me record i was like oh it's like blowing my mind man you gotta listen to it and uh i like brought him onto the car during our lunch break i was like dude like we could do this we could do this like really easy and uh it just kind of i don't know kind of started from there and um i don't know it just kind of happened i guess like i don't know in texas like i think it's like in houston there really isn't like a scene for like the music that we play so uh a lot of there weren't really like a lot of touring bands of stuff that i listened to coming through and i guess like it kind of became cool because the band almost made it so there was like a safe place for like you know bands that i like to either come and just like stay or even play like and uh i mean we're totally like that band that was like oh like cool like we love your band i'll set up a show playing it you know what i mean like but it worked out and i don't know that's uh that's your pioneers right there and there you go add and subtract a couple million members and a few people here and there yeah yeah and you got it so oh i was gonna say today uh your show at the kickstand you said you this is what your fourth show you guys played as a four piece four shows a four piece uh look at you guys you keep adding memories i know i know you started off as a two piece i know right uh yeah the like the brian setzer orchestra going on over there the kids that were playing with me today uh the it's gonna be confusing but the bass player and the guitarist uh were the kids that recorded neon creeps with me um but the second guitarist was playing drums at the time interesting yeah and the thing is like he's an amazing musician so it was awesome uh but he is more happy playing guitar so you know that was kind of one of the reasons why he left is he played drums and when he left i had some other friends like helping me out and i just you know hadn't talked to him like six months and out of the blue like shot me an email and at that point the dudes i was playing with were like hey like we're kind of thinking about getting like full-time jobs because we're not really touring that much so all right um we started talking and uh he had started a band in richmond with a really good friend of his that they had since seventh grade and he was like you know hey like what are you guys doing do you need people to play with you i was like yeah like let's give it a shot yeah and then he's like well can i play guitar and have my friend play drums like sure and so they worked on it like in indiana where they're from uh and then they flew down like a week before fest and we practiced and joe who plays drums now actually flew down last saturday we had about three days to practice and then we left for tour and uh it was fun it's great good time so he used to be in foxy shazam looks like there's boobs yeah i'm sorry i feel i'm really not trying to it's the sci-fi network so it's okay it's okay it caught me off guard too i was like what uh sorry i'm not trying to seduce you i just bring you to the hotel room put some porn on better if you did make for a better interview so um yeah i don't know that's the story in foxy shazam he's playing foxy shazam and my understanding is he was kicked out by uh a producer i'm not sure which record but whoever was recording him was like joe you're not a good enough drummer but good enough for this band so you know so it worked out okay yeah yeah i know see i gotta be honest i've never heard the band but i've seen the album cover and so i imagine it's a little bit of a different i've never heard departure musical yeah i've never heard him either but i like to make up in my head like what they sound like you know so it uh yeah that's fine though yeah well i just know the picture what is it the album cover it has uh i'm assuming it's the singer and he's like shirtless and he's like held up by the crowd yeah yeah that's the one i i see all the time too so yeah but um yeah in my head yeah for some reason i'm picturing something with kind of a neo-funk like 70s sound and i think it's just the name yeah i yeah honestly i think that's what it is like with a little hardcore but you know i don't they're unfair you know or they were unfair i don't know what they are so i'm not gonna say anything in case i want to talk to somebody from ferret later it's my all-time record label they have put out so all all of my favorite all of my favorite records i know you have a little vinyl all all of them on well now that vinyl collective license yeah exactly exactly anyhow uh before i say anything that i'm gonna regret sorry see i'm supposed to have you on here and you're supposed to say embarrassing stuff not me yes i win this round fantastic all right so now i'm gonna give you 15 seconds to run down every o pioneer's release that you guys have all right this is gonna be a little hard okay so it started with like a demo cd uh that was like pretty much just like all hand-drawn covers a lot of them were drawn by mitch clem actually which is like pretty cool um and actually justin has one of them framed in his house which is pretty funny nice and uh then from there uh we did uh lp called black mambas and then we did a split with i believe the next split was with the measure we did one with a band from chicago that i don't think exists anymore called announcement um we just put the bomb music industry uh cd in a 10 inch and then where does saw wheel fall on this oh actually you know what saw wheel is the first uh the first thing after the uh after the demo cds i always forget about that one uh i don't know take that saw we have that saw will quit being so awesome um so yeah actually it was funny like when we had first started like we played uh our first show in austin with rj from saw wheel and he came up to us like hey like let's do this one cd we're like all right awesome yeah and uh yeah uh i haven't seen him in a very long time but he's a cool guy um so yeah saw wheel and then uh black mambas and then a bunch seven inches see ball music industry split and then i think what happened after that oh we also did split with our friends by the end of tonight uh another lp neon creeps and then uh suburban home under the influence split we just did a seven inch on whoa and i'm trying to think if i'm missing anything we did a seven inch on asian man right when we all right right when we signed uh and we just split with our friends the anchor and i think no we also just split with mike park holy that's it so um and a lot of so they're officially 5 000 oh pioneer songs yeah in the world and you know what's really funny is like we don't really have that many songs like i mean like even like our you know our second lp is like under that's like 28 minutes it's like 10 songs you know what you know like and at that point we just couldn't like i couldn't write any more songs i didn't know what else to do uh and they're all on splits yeah i'm trying to think like we have a split and the works yes a lot of that was my fault because i was really busy and i didn't have a chance to like put it all together so uh now is there a label behind that uh no idea is gonna do yeah but i i'm unclear on what uh format it's gonna be on i mean obviously it'll be a record but yeah there's gonna be cd or i think it's gonna be a 10 inch but i'm not really sure that'll be kind of cool yeah so that should be fun and then uh i don't really know if anything else is coming out i feel like there is but i can't think of it uh we're working on like another record but i don't really know i don't have a timeline for it or anything so it's better not to yeah i mean and it doesn't doesn't really help that uh the other dudes in my band live in indiana so yeah that's not doing you any favors yeah yeah exactly so i don't know we started writing stuff when they came down to practice and we wrote about i think three songs so hopefully it should go smoothly nice nice yeah never uh rubber i totally uh just stumbled over my own words that's okay i do it all the time let me rewind that again uh is there ever think any plans in the future to get all the stuff from like the splits and seven inches and maybe compile it onto something uh just happy having it scattered no there was for a while um like i don't know it's a something like a lot of it's not sold out yet so it's like yeah i would feel bad like i mean some stuff is really close um it says some stuff like the binding tonight split and the split with the anchor i think are completely done the measure split is almost done um and the park split i think i'd like to touch on just i had no idea the measure got so big yeah they're huge i had no idea and i was at common grounds and everyone's like oh they're i'm gonna go see the measure and i was i think one of the best things about the measure is that they write a song like every day and it's like better than yeah like half the bands that i know so i mean like yeah it's awesome and i don't know it's really funny because like i really like the measure a lot and uh i asked aaron from team science to put out the cd he was like oh man no i don't really like that band and like pretty much for like seven months i just asked him every day straight finally he did it and then like like i guess the other day that like there's like a and like the reason like we're doing anything is like because of you like he's like oh man it's good thing to put on that cd and it's like good move on my part like threw my hands up in the air like i fucking hate you so yeah but it's funny i totally love that cd by the way yeah me too uh but like when i first met the measure like uh before we decided to do a split with him i was like talking to lauren it's like oh like you know what are your guys plans and she's like we're gonna do like a bunch of like seven inches like hey me too like let's do one together and then she's like all right cool and then uh we couldn't find a label for a long time and then we played in tampa and i had met brian from new breezes kiss of death and uh we started talking about how great the measure was i was like hey your label's like you know pretty cool you want to put it out he's like sure and that was that so yeah that's pretty to see like that's what i'm finding more and more when i'm talking to more and more bands and labels is a lot of the new releases like the smaller stuff is really just kind of like what do you think like there's no great plan behind it like yeah i mean you can't do that anymore either there isn't any plans anymore so i don't know i feel like as shitty as it is to say it's like yeah i feel like if you're friends with somebody it's not a problem but like yeah it's the reality of it you know what i mean like i mean some you know some bands are amazing and that's how they get their records put out and other bands are not so amazing like ours and we just have friends that that are willing to dump money into it so that's uh you know you got two you got what two releases on a really religious label so yeah i mean i'm stoked about it so uh i mean you know with kiss of death it's like it's pretty cool like just like call brian to be like hey like i put out this record he's like okay so all right yes and actually like the like we just did a seven inch and it was literally like hey johnny like we put out this record and he's like sure and it was paid for a week later like you know what i mean it was like it was like no problem and that's that's the one that you guys just put out yeah it's like there was like you only did like what 300 yeah there's only 300 i don't think we're gonna do any more um i think those are almost out to you actually um and yeah it was cool like i've always wanted to do like a one-sided seven inch it was pretty sweet yeah we did it i don't know it's fun like and a story we thought about it and now it's done yeah yeah and uh actually originally we wanted to do uh a one-sided seven inch with one of the songs that so the angel x and g had split as like um kind of like a bonus seven inch to go with the with neon creeps but um the idea we had was a little too complicated and it probably would have been too expensive so what was the idea we're gonna have it uh we're gonna have a an lp like die cut down to a dollar sign and uh and like have it given away because uh and it was gonna be backed with one of the songs from the lp is about like not having any money and then another song that wasn't about having money so we thought it would be like a like oh it's gonna be great and then like i brought it up to like var from no idea i was like hey you want to do this he's like you guys is gonna cost like four thousand dollars and he's like to give us away for free is stupid and it's like i was like oh man like uh yeah that's a smart smart thing right there so then then we didn't do it that's why it's uh yeah it sounds amazing but it's one of those things where like in your head it sounds really good and then logistically it's like we're not converging i mean like i'm we're not in death wish so it's not gonna happen so i have no idea what it would cost to even produce it would be ridiculous i think five thousand dollars is probably a pretty close estimate yeah i think it's a pretty close estimate and i mean like yep some bands can pull it off and uh we're just not one of those bands uh we are the uh oh hey cool like black's on sale like everything's gonna be on black for the next three months so yeah yeah that's uh that's how it is it's not well you guys what kiss of death did like a bunch of different colors of neon creeps and it seems to have done pretty well yeah it did pretty well i think like there's like two or three colors in the first pressing and then uh the second pressing was a green but the second pressing was also pretty small and the third one was like 180 grams so i think all together there's like four or five colors like floating around but a lot of it too is uh kiss of death like puts out so many records that uh he just pretty much like tells the pressing plant like whatever you have lying around do it and you know sometimes it's like crazy mixed colors sometimes it's like leftover solids that they have so i think that's kind of how it came about nice but yeah and i think it worked out pretty well for you yeah i think so i'm still going okay so uh quick break as we do at this point in the interview uh and we're gonna play some more music by oh pioneers to give maybe if you're unacquainted with them you don't know what you're listening to uh it'll give you a chance to kind of you know get an idea of how they are maybe you'll really like them anyhow um we're gonna play oh man i had this problem the first time we recorded it too uh yeah it's called uh it's off of black mommas and i believe the track is called we have friends i promise i could be wrong but uh i'm pretty sure that's the name of the track eric all of his tracks are like full sentences like he never names anything like you know fire eyes or something though he should fire eyes is a sick fucking song name and i bet you it would win a grammy or at least a latin grammy which is kind of like segregated grammys anyhow um yeah all his songs are really long so i i forget the name sometimes but uh i believe it's called uh we have friends i promise it's off of black mambas and then we're gonna go back into the interview be sure to listen to the whole thing so you can enter to win a copy of black mambas and neon creeps on vinyl and that's it here's the song then we're going back to the interview

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and various merch design yeah mostly it's just uh we just print other people's designs but uh it actually started as uh setting up shows for bands and stuff like that interesting and so how did that morph into making money uh well i guess it hasn't how when how did it work more from shows living a stressful living yeah how did it morph from shows to what would you do now screen printing uh you know it's funny because a lot of a lot of people in houston especially think that like we started it to book shows for pioneers but it's actually the other way around like we started booking shows before we did the band and i to be honest i don't really know uh like when i was in college about a button machine like and tried to make money uh from bands which i did and then but i'm obviously not a lot with a button machine but um and i just kind of took off from there like uh we just like we had been making buttons for a while and went to the craft store and bought like a you know 30 speedball kit and just kind of kept going from there you know uh and i think five years later i mean it's still going like uh i make a living i i live off it but it's it's not like but i'm not making a living you don't you don't sleep on a mattress made of money no no i mean i would like to but i don't i think everyone would like to that's the dream ultimately yeah that's why uh everyone gets involved yeah i mean well you know you're so close exactly we're on our way we're almost there uh yeah i mean it's it's fun and it's uh it's it's cool because like i'm my own boss but as awesome as that sounds like it really sucks like i mean uh for the past three months i've been working 20 hour days so like you know i mean like fest fest was more of like a hey we get to sleep for six hours tonight yeah then oh we get to stand up and see bands all day i'm not actually working like at the shop yeah exactly like i mean there there was basically like a two-month time period where uh my girlfriend who also co-owns it like we didn't leave the shop like we had people like bring us food or like bring us whatever we needed and like just live in the shop yeah yeah it's just like it was a mess it was awful well i mean yeah i guess that's the flip side of it is you're your own boss but at the same time there's nobody defer to defer judgment to yeah exactly i mean like i would love to have like uh you know it sounds really strange saying this but yeah i would love to have like a nine to five job where like it's kind of somebody else's dime and like yeah you know i can fuck around all day i mean i fuck around all day most time anyway but like it's you know every time i do that it's just like oh cool like i might not be on my electric bill this month because it's like four thousand dollars or something you know like so it's pretty crazy but it's cool i enjoy it yeah i know uh what are some of the bands that you've done uh work for um we work with uh we work with a lot of industrial bands which is pretty sweet uh there yeah there's like a guy in houston um who runs like web stores for a bunch of bands uh we did um like for the past three maybe four years we've done all of kmftm's merch which is like pretty cool um i mean i'm not a fan but it's exciting yeah they're pretty well known yeah i mean we we got to do the merch for ministries last two or ever which was really cool um and then you know getting like we sponsor the fest and uh get a lot of cool bands from that like we just did some shirts for sam i am uh for iron cheek um we did a bunch of fast shirts last year and we do all the koozies and stuff so yeah i don't know it's like it's pretty cool because like uh you get to work for bands that you really like um might be doing stuff like face to face which is like weird like really uh yeah i don't know it's cool too like nice so yeah do you ever get excited about like certain designs like just how cool they look or by the time you've done the fifth 500th one are you just tired of looking at it um not necessarily about the designs but like the people that we get to work with like yeah i mean like uh like fat records that like contact us to do stuff like like like that label had like a really big impact on my life you know like so that was like a really big deal um i mean like we were like pretty tight with like side one dummy which is like pretty cool um and i don't know like yeah it blows my mind sometimes like we'll just get orders in like really like robo gamblers are ordering shirts like this is crazy like i love robo gamblers you know really yeah just anything like that it's just like this is insane right now so yeah uh yeah so not really designs but definitely like working with the people yeah set it up yeah yeah i could see that so you ever gonna meet anybody because of that or just mostly i mean like the bands are mostly just the people who set up the ranch or anything um i'm trying to think i don't think i really met like anybody cool like doing anything like yeah i don't know mostly like if it's like a bigger band like talking to their manager yeah you know um i mean like i i met al jorgensen's wife which that's kind of cool yeah which is cool um i've uh i've been i'm supposed to be kmftm i never have i mean i don't know like yeah i don't know how i would react to meeting them i imagine they're very like maybe they're completely normal but i have no idea yeah i mean like yeah they seem like they'd be kind of odd yeah i think so too but i mean like and the cool thing too is like we like they we like live in our warehouse like we converted to live there and uh we have like an extra bedroom so bands stay i'm like it's cool to like um you know have new people come over and just like see them like like oh like this is like awesome like you know have them be stoked on something that you work really hard on and like you know have them turn around and like order stuff for me you know like uh like like for instance i mean polar bear club i've known them for like a long time but they say to the warehouse and like two days later like hey like we need shirts in like two days can you do it sure you know we did it so yeah that was like it was cool i don't know very nice yeah and so i mean you you you have bands stage place you do merchandise you set up shows you play in a band yeah you kind of do it all oh i don't know i feel like i i feel like a lot of people like this community kind of do like a ton of different stuff and it's like it's cool you know what i mean like but a lot of it too is like in houston there really isn't anything like that so um i don't know it's where we live is a very odd musical community and uh i you know i've lived in houston for like five years now i still don't have a grasp on it like there's definitely i've definitely stopped trying as hard to kind of like win people over in terms of the band or even like you know having friends come but i can at least like you know if we have friends that are in smaller bands come i can at least be like hey like you have a place to stay well at least you know make you dinner or something yeah you know i don't feel like a total jerk so yeah i don't know that's a good well it's it's weird because i hear and i say this is someone who spent no more than two hours in dallas fort worth airport okay but um everyone talks about like the kind of musical community that austin has and so it's strange to me that like and yeah and i mean well it's a big part of it too is austin is three hours away and so it's like see there you know people graduate high school they go to college in austin and austin is basically more or less a giant college town and austin's awesome but i would i could never live there i mean i don't think i do i don't i don't do enough cocaine to live there so you know that come on that could be that could be right i mean we're in gains over now so that could be arranged but uh i don't know like well i mean i say that just because like the shows don't start until really late and yeah i feel like to have a normal life and a musical life is very difficult and i mean i applaud the people that do it but uh i'm just not one of those people like fair enough it seemed i like and that's the thing is i have no concept of when you're like it's three hours away i was like i didn't know to me texas is like this whole area because austin austin's like definitely like this weird like mecca where you're in the middle like literally in the middle like this huge conservative state you have like one of the most liberal towns in america and like uh it's awesome i like going to austin and i like playing shows in austin but it's definitely completely different than the rest of texas for the most part so yeah well i feel like san francisco is kind of the same way i like i like going there a lot but the concept of living there i think i would shoot myself with yeah yeah i mean i need to be relaxed a little bit i don't need to be in party mode the whole time you know like that's to me that's what austin is yeah well three days at fest and i'm done yeah so i couldn't imagine yeah anything like any regular schedule like that yeah and i mean that's the thing in austin it's like that like every night so i don't know and in houston like as much as i talk shit about houston like it's cool too because it's like you know uh we did a show for the erics a couple years ago and there's 30 people there like i mean as far as i know it's like that was kind of unheard of at the time like 30 people at her show like i mean i'm sure if they were playing like in san francisco play gilman would probably be like 100 maybe like yeah so like it's cool like you have like these small intimate shows and and you get to become friends with the people uh you know because you share that experience yeah that i mean that's kind of cool but yeah no definitely i definitely understand when uh to to draw parallels further because i like to pretend that i know i'm like tower banks where i pretend i associate with everything everyone says and yeah san jose we uh there's very little musical scene in san jose and yeah like well you've tried to come through there you know how it right but uh we had frank turner and he came back to back sold out shows or he was sandwiched between two sold out shows one in southern california and then the one in san francisco and the one in san jose that he played there was probably 30 people there yeah and it was really really awkward i mean like yeah okay i mean i mean it was nice it might have sucked for him but like i'm sure for you guys i i had a good time exactly and i don't know like even though they're small shows like the erg show uh we did it in our warehouse actually and like everyone that was there was like stoked to be there you know what i mean um so well that's the thing is that yeah you also get the people that are there more into it they're the people who are you know they're there because they really want to be there not just because it's like another show to go to well and i don't know if it's like this in san francisco like i know there's like i know about like oakland i'm sure there's like other towns and stuff too but basically to get to what's considered one end of houston or the other is easily an hour and a half drive you know what i mean like houston is fucking massive and and the thing is like uh a lot of shows if they're not within like you know a certain a certain couple blocks like yeah people are like oh i'm not fucking i'm not walking there you know that's too far away and i don't know unfortunately that's how it is but i wish it wasn't but yeah it's everywhere has its own little weird dynamic unfortunately yeah there's not much you can do on that yeah anyhow um i guess we have a lot of audio on that so sweet i'm going to uh wrap it up is there anything else you want to plug before we go uh anything you want to push bands labels yourself merchandise uh always always always looking to push bands uh friends of sidekicks awesome i don't know if you've heard them but super cool guys uh they run an awesome house and well some of them run an awesome house in cleveland that was amazing um aaron team science yeah shitty guy cool label terrible so many jokes so many jokes terrible person uh yeah i don't know uh yeah good times so thanks thank you i appreciate it so that's the whole uh interview i hope you enjoyed it i want to thank eric so much for taking the time uh if you guys get the chance i know they're going on tour december hopefully they're coming through the west coast again uh check them out great great guy uh great band all that business so uh before we go into the introduction because i'm re we're re-recording this on wednesday news just came to light so before we go or yeah we're recording it's tuesday so yeah yeah it's coming out today but uh some news has come to light between when we first recorded and today so i'd just like to take a moment before we do the contest to say how awesome is it that glenn beck lost the lawsuit over the website titled glenn beck raped and murdered a young girl yeah there was a guy who created a website based on you know it's just because glenn beck's a douche and it's called glenn beck raped and murdered a young girl and the whole website isn't it's not dedicated per se to the fact that he did it but it it's like no he didn't no but the whole point but the whole point of the website isn't like he did it but it's like why hasn't glenn beck said if he has like why hasn't glenn beck come out and denied this where's glenn beck's proof that he never raped and murdered a young girl and so glenn beck got really pissed and took these guys to court uh over like copyrights and intellectual properties and the court went uh no no the these people have the right to do it and anyone who looks at this is not going to get it confused with glennbeck.com no one's going to look at this and be like where's all the race baiting and the fear of obama and health care and so they threw it out but then the guy who owned the website said i'm done with it you know i made my point and he turned over the domain name and everything to glenn beck just basically because he made his point so it's i believe it's officially offline right now but i'm stoked that glenn beck raped and murdered a young girl i believe that's the domain yeah dot com i believe that's the full domain name uh won that case so uh fuck you glenn beck i hope you die all right um moving forward contest for oh pioneers we're gonna go with the original contest um which is you win a copy of neon creeps and a copy of black mambas on vinyl and the contest question because we always have one send an email soundscenerevolution at gmail.com enter oh pioneers contest under the subject line put your name your email address your phone number uh all your information that we're totally gonna fucking sell for a ton of money because we get like three people each time and at 10 cents a name it almost pays for a stamp but um so give us all that information and then answer the following question uh would you buy a dick towel uh available at dick towel.com uh it's the holiday season maybe you got somebody uh who showers a lot um someone who's a swimmer water polo player uh yeah like you know you shower like you go to public like the bathhouses and you want a dick towel to show your shit off i don't know maybe you just like the idea uh maybe you want one for yourself uh would you purchase the dick towel dick towel.com check it out i didn't invent it i don't get any money off of it it's way better than anything i'd come up with so uh don't worry just answer that question and uh then enter the contest fantastic again we have the camaraderie contest still running check that out i think every other contest may be closed but uh feel free to enter them anyway and we will tell you if it's closed or not good good thank you guys so much for tuning in thanks to eric from oh pioneers um next week we'll be continuing our fest series and then hopefully before the holiday break we have a huge huge well not huge a big surprise we're pretty excited about it dick towel size surprise the the big dick not the small dick on the dick towel not the little bird the big cock any look at the website i promise it's worth your time but uh we have a big surprise lined up before the holiday season that we're really excited about and hopefully you guys will all enjoy it and uh it's just our way of thanking you for i don't know listening ever um all right we're out um we'll be back next week before we go we're gonna leave you with another oh pioneers track we're going to play uh punk news is stoked off of their split with bomb music industry because i think it's a funny song and it's actually i think it's really super catchy so enjoy it we'll be back next week with more fest interviews and uh drive safely i guess 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