Interview with Hour of the Wolf - Podcast 117

Alright, this is Lance from Hour of the Wolf, and you're listening to Sound Scene Revolution.

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I was kind of drunk by this point. I'd been drinking at the show, and then afterwards I had a drink or two after the interview, and then after that we went all over to Jack's place from Kamadre, because he was holding up Hour of the Wolf for the night. And so we went there to do the interview, and there were more drinks there. And so by the time this interview happened, I was a little drunk, and so I might have misquoted a few things in certain questions. I know for a fact, I'm almost pretty sure I saw Henry Rollins, I said I saw Henry Rollins on the Rise Against tour, and that was supposed to be the Rise Above tour, which was the benefit concert Rollins and Rollins Band did for the West Memphis Three.

Perhaps I said Rise Above, but I was pretty sure the evening of, I said, when I saw Rollins on tour with Rise Against, and that never happened. Though I might be cool with that tour. Anyhow, so there's probably a few things more than average that I misquote in this interview, and so... I tend to get some shit wrong, like let's be honest, I'm not really good, but I'm probably a little bit worse now. But Hour of the Wolf were super nice guys, and one of their guys was like drinking whiskey straight out of a jar. It was fucking intense. But they're good dudes. And I like the interview. And we're going to be playing a track from each... well they have more than three releases, but from three separate releases.

We're going to play from Waste Makes Waste. They're split with Lute Axe, and then from their newest EP, Obsolete. So we're going to start with Waste Makes Waste from the EP Waste Makes Waste, and go from there into the interview, and then we'll carry on. Just so you know, remember, we've got the Touche Amore contest still running this week. And yeah, so check it out, and we'll be back in just a little bit.

So Sound Scene Revolution, we're hanging out at... I think it's called the Atomic Garden. The Atomic Garden? I don't know. Jack Shirley of Comadre runs his joint. I've got his card in my pocket. Oh, you've got his card? Yeah, let me... Okay, hold on. That's what it's called. Let me see if we can remember. You have like 40 pockets. Yeah, I've got a lot of pockets. This is unacceptable. Check it out, Lance's driver's license issued November 25th, 2009. He just got his license. Yeah, I just got... I'm 25, and I just got my license. 2009, you just got your driver's license. Yeah. All right, by the way, we're with Hour of the Wolf while Lance tries to dig out... Well, oh, here it is. ...the card of where we are. Okay. We are at the Atomic Garden Recording Studio.

Okay. Yeah, Shirley. We are with Hour of the Wolf at Atomic Garden after they're set at Submission Artspace. in San Francisco. Thank you guys so much for taking the time. We understand it's late. Our pleasure. You guys have been playing and now everyone's drinking. I'm drinking water. Yeah. Lance is keeping it healthy. Yeah. Out of the Captain with the Crucifix sword glass. So, if everyone wants to take a second and just introduce themselves so we can get an idea, feel free to go around. I'm Lance. I sing in the band. I'm Pat. I play bass. I'm Addison. I play guitar and sing backups. All right. Fantastic. That works. Very important. It is important. Come on. Someone's... There were only two mics on that stage. Yeah. One was yours.

That's right. And one was yours. I just pointed to... I don't remember names. We've moved on from that point, Sound Guy Nairman. That time is over. Moving on. Yeah. Moving on to something that's important. First question. The normal question. Brief history of the band. Brief history of the band. These guys were in another band in our town called Life and Pictures. They had a good run. I was in a band that doesn't even need to be named. As in, you don't like to remember them or no one else would? It wouldn't matter. Okay. Fair enough. Fairly inactive. I sing in that band. Those guys came and saw a show that I was in. They said that they... He's lost interest. He's already... Pat's out of here. They asked if I would like to sing in another little project they were starting up.

And I was really excited. Said yes. We got together. We wrote some songs. I actually had to try out, though, in the band. Really? Yeah. I had to write. You were taking it real serious. I had one night to come up with lyrics to like four songs. And then the next day, I had to practice those songs with them. That's like American Idol. Yeah. They're like, you have 24 hours to think of the lyrics for a fourth song. There's a few other people that wanted to sing in the band. Wow. But I made the cut. Nice. And then we actually practiced a lot and whatnot, but nothing really was happening. So we kind of like... Things just quit happening. Then we got back together as a Misfits cover band for one night. Halloween. Yeah, it was a Halloween night.

And we went all out, dressed all up for it. Wow. And then from there on, the band got serious about writing. Life and Pictures broke up in 2005. So that's kind of like pretty much when we started taking it like semi-seriously. It started like recording and touring and shit was in 2005. Nice. So you mentioned it kind of all came together when you guys did the Misfits cover set for Halloween, you said? Yeah, I think it was just more so like we had a lot of fun practicing all the songs. And then it was just like we were done practicing all these songs and that show was over and it was like, well, you guys want to practice, but you know, like practice what? Yeah. And so like, oh, maybe let's just start writing our own songs and stuff.

And from there, it just evolved. Nice, nice. I was going to note because you guys get a lot of the reviews I've read of your music gets compared to the Misfits a lot. And I was going to ask how you guys feel about that. Is it something where you're like, well, that's great because there's worse bands or is it kind of like, well, I adore the original Misfits. Like I, it's one of my favorite fucking bands and I take it as a compliment because I don't think that a lot of, I mean, I don't know, not that many bands get compared to the Misfits. I don't think so. I mean, I don't mind it at all. Like there's, there's like, I'd much rather be compliment, I mean, compared to the Misfits than, you know, a lot of other bands.

I take it as a compliment too, but, um, one thing I've noticed is like some people get disappointed because they, when they see that they assume that we're like today's modern like horror rock bands. Yeah. And, um, like we don't, we're not, we don't like to be gimmicky. We don't wear eyeliner. We don't, you know, we don't have face makeup and I'm not putting any of that down either. I'm just saying that's not what we do. So if, if people see or read that as a review, maybe think of like earth AD Misfits, just like fast, hard music, don't think of the look. We're not trying to be like that. That's a bummer. Cause I think you would look awesome if we got you some leather pants and maybe like a cut off t-shirt, double lock.

I would do it if I could, I mean, I'd try to double lock, but my, I have dog hair. What does that mean? It means that my hair is, if you touch it, it feels like a, like a, some kind of like German shepherd and it does, it won't do devil lock. It won't do the devil. No, it'll do just a dog mutt style hair. I would, I would touch it, but I think that'd be going beyond the boundaries of journalistic integrity. I think that moving on. Yeah. I think that would just be kind of creepy. So moving forward, you have, um, what? Three EPs and a split seven inch that you guys have been a part of. Yeah. Yep. Yep. No full length. Yeah. I was going to say in your, in your career thus far, you have no full lengths under your belt.

Yep. We've been a man for four years. We got three EPs and a split EP and no full length. Basically what happens is the first EP was just us getting us stuff out there. That was power of the wolf. Second EP was, um, the attempt to write a full length, but we got sick of waiting for ourselves to write a full length and we wanted to tour and we wanted to tour on something and think fast. We wanted to put something out. So we were just like, well, right time, right place. Let's just get something out. Yeah. Um, and when labels are interested, which is few and far between with us, we, we go for it. And, uh, so we put that out. That was the same thing with what happened with help. Help it. Same thing. Yeah. They were just like, we can give you a recording budget.

Like if you guys want to like, you want to make a record and we were like, well, fuck, we've got about enough for a 10 inch, but not a full length. So what the hell? Yeah. And the split with Ludax was just that we're really good friends with Ludax and we both, both bands wanted to be on a split with each other and, uh, they think fast wanted them to join with them. So it was a good time for that. It was fun. Yeah. And Ludax ended up, what, their last album was on a death wish, right? Yeah. Not a bad place to be. Yeah. That's why I keep thinking you guys should be doing a full length. Well, yeah. Do it now. And if someone, anybody wants to put it out, yeah. And I'll, and I'll also other bands. If you get on a split with us, your band's going to get big.

Your band will be on death wish. Hands down. Go on tour with us and we're going to headline over you. And then next year you'll be huge. That's the way it goes. Hey, that's a good way to get people to be out there. You know, someone's got to do it. There has to be some incentive. Yeah. So I wanted to ask you guys, has there been any plans to compile the EP work onto a single full length or is it just waiting on it right now? It's been attempted and failed and it will be reattempted one day again. Okay. We were trying to put, the first plan was to do Power of the Wolf and Waste Makes Waste on one record. Um, and that was about to happen and then we were going to actually throw everything all together and do a discography.

But, uh, at the time that we were going to be doing this was the same time that Michael from Hellfish was getting us to do a new, uh, a new EP with him and the discography, they really wanted it to be everything about the Wolf. And they didn't want to have something, they wouldn't have anything else. They wanted to have like basically everything. So, um, you know, we, we couldn't, everyone couldn't agree between Hellfish, us and Think Fast. We just couldn't, you know, that's another problem that we've been on late. We just go from label to label. And so it's tough to figure that all out. But one, one day if we can get the money or if somebody else can get all the, the other labels to agree, we will, we'll do, we'll do something where everybody can get it all as one.

Fair enough. A little bit. I guess we were going to say, uh, in terms of vinyl, only obsolete and you're split with Ludax, which is now out of print. Yeah. They're the only ones that have been on vinyl, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And they're the one with, uh, obsolete is in like four different unknown numbers of colors, which upsets vinyl nerds, but they're an easy group to upset. So they're the, the sickest looking record you're ever going to see. It does look pretty fantastic. That's the bottom line. You guys had them out at the show. And those weren't even, those weren't even the best. The reason why I say that is because I designed all of it. You designed it? I draw all of our artwork and I did. Oh shit. Yeah.

We came up with all the designs for the records. I feel like I should know that being that I'm doing the interview, but I don't. So I'm going to act really impressed. It's a little secret. It's a little secret that you have to look at the liner notes to find out the design and layout. That's pretty awesome. So you did the, for obsolete, you did all the layout. Yeah. By the way, if you hear anything in the background, that's just Kenny from Camadre opening a beer and enjoying the record. And myself and the other guitar player in our band, we do all of our, we've done everything except Lance has drawn all of our artwork and every t-shirt design. Except Tyler from Ludax has done a few things with a split and a t-shirt.

Split, which is inspired by or released in part by a Married to the Sea comic, people claim. I don't know. You'd have to see Married to the Sea to understand. Check it out. People have said, I'm not that guy. I don't even know what it is. Married to the Sea? No, it's a webcomic. Okay. It's on the internet. I've had it. Like Family Circus, but online. Oh. And Circus is really sweet, like Family. I've heard people compare the artwork to R. Crumb's band, like his old-timey band. I'll tell you right now, the artwork for the split was 100%. Both Tyler and I were going for R. Crumb, Robert Crumb. And they were near San Francisco. That's where he was from. And, yeah, all inspired by that. Nice, nice, nice.

Kenny. Merry Christmas. By the way, just came by with a six-pack of beer that I don't know where he produced it from. I don't want to drink it all. He just, he happened to have it. I'm going to have one more.

You can have as many as you want. Don't worry. It's not going to impact this interview. I promise you. All right. But moving on. Moving forward in the music, after we just determined that you did most of the artwork for all your stuff, I have a request from Chris Farron of Fake Problems. We put out fan questions. He asked you, he said, when are you guys going to design a T-shirt for them? For them? Yeah. We've done one already that was a pizza skull. I did one for them that was that. I started to do one that was a disco skull. And something happened. I don't know. We do a lot. Hank and I do a lot of artwork for a lot of bands. Yeah. And we get way behind because we are not professional. Cannibal Corpse. At all. Yeah, they're doing one for Cannibal Corpse.

If someone puts in a request, it may or may not happen. Well, yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, I feel bad, but, you know, it's not like there's any money sitting in our hands. So, we don't, you know, we're not, it's not like this pay first and then we get a shirt out. Yeah. It's just if we can get it done and get to it, it's just so hard to go from, I mean, working at a, you know, a shitty job at home, then trying to draw stuff, then trying to go practice. So, we'll get around to it. And whatever they want, I will draw for that band. All right. That band's awesome. All right. As long as, when you get the time, you'll get around to it. Yes. All right. We posted if anyone wants to ask questions and that was his. He asked another one, but I don't really remember.

So, I'm not going to put too much effort into it. We got one fan. We have one fan. There's a couple. No, you guys. Two. Actually, we've just started fan questions in the past three or four interviews out of the, what, 113 that we've done. We just started asking for fan questions and you guys got the most, so. Three? No, you got more than. We took the three best. There's more than three. I wish I would have known because I would have, I would have set up questions acting like a fan. You would have pretended that you were a fan of your own band. You would have had to. Why are you guys so badass all the time? Why do you guys get so many chicks? You ask that? Oh, well, we're going to have to cross that. So, I want to ask.

You guys are known a lot as a live band. You're known for kind of the crazy live show that you guys put on. What is, is there at least a craziest live story that you guys have? Or any that stand out. I think the New Year's Eve in Tucson. Yeah, that's pretty wild. We brought, we brought in a Wurlitzer organ. Now, these things weigh as much as. Like a living room organ. Like a small station wagon. And we, we didn't bring. We brought it in and we were, we were starting that night off with an Andrew W.K. cover. Which the next year we did a full Andrew W.K. set. Wow. I get wet from start to finish. But we started that night off with an Andrew W.K. cover. And the organ was destroyed. Burned. Burned. Smashed into pieces.

And it seriously felt like a war. The closest I've ever been to a war. A room that was way overpopulated. It was at the, this place called the Narwhal House. And it's a bunch of kids in Tucson. And they just throw these crazy New Year's parties. And there's videos on YouTube that don't do it justice. But you can give you an idea. Everything you've ever seen as a kid in like parties that like movies make you think like what parties are going to be like. It was all that. Like people swinging from chandeliers. Oh wow. All that shit that doesn't happen in a real normal party. Actually if you look at this jacket right here which was mine at one point. And I traded Pat. These are all from firecrackers. People throwing firecrackers at me while I'm playing.

And them going off on my arm during the set. It's a good thing you had a long sleeve jacket though. I know. Because otherwise those would be scars on your arm. That's right. And didn't we smash the organ? Yeah. The organ got smashed. The organ got smashed. Yeah. And then burnt in the front yard.

Fire after work. Yes. Okay. I was like I hope whoever rented it to you wasn't. People. I got it for free from an old couple. No shit. People were sliding across the floor because they had smashed everything in the fridge and used it as like a slip and slide. So all the condiments you could find in a fridge and you know eggs, ketchup, mustard. They were using that. Manage all that. Yeah. And the lease holder on that apartment is getting sued right now. I would imagine. Because Max who lived in Tucson moved to San Francisco and I saw him today and they're like yeah whoever had like whosever's name was on the lease was being sued because that house got destroyed so much over the years. But there's just holes in the hardwood floor and they just nailed like fucking plywood.

It was like ridiculous. That's fixed. Done. Honestly any show we've ever done the craziness isn't even because of us. It's just cool kids who decide to go crazy on their own and that's what I think is cool. Sometimes we can get people to go off and they get it. We just play the same way usually every time. It's just how it reacts. Pat played naked once which I mean. I played naked in Gainesville. Was that the best? Yeah. Yeah. I was inspired by Gigi Allen to play naked. How did that go over? That's one of those. That's like one of those legendary sets when you talk about Out of the Wolf. Everyone's like one time the bassist played naked. It was crazy. He threw his dirty underwear into the audience and he staged over naked.

I staged over on a mound of people. It was like Moses parting the red seat. And my cock just slapped people in the face on the way. Everybody was like. No. My tooth got naked Pat. My tooth got shattered at that show. Was that the one at 1982? No. That was at Market Street. Market Street Pub. I don't remember. I think it was Market Street Pub. I'm pretty sure. It was the year before. The year before? Okay. That might have been Market Street. This last one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That might have been Market Street. Market Street. It's a good place. Yeah. That was my favorite place so far. Yeah. At the fest. It has that great, like, the main stage and then it has, yeah, the balconies on either side where people can jump off and if you're on the fucking main floor, they can just elbow you and do the shit out of you.

Lance also threw a bunch of garbage that had puke in it on the audience on the same naked show. That it had puke on it. Yeah. But dude, the stagehand was like, no, no, no, don't do that. And you're like, do it. It's like, fuck it. Garbage, man. Why not? And it was full. Little did he know it was full of puke. When was, was that the same set? The same set as the naked. The last fest we just did, we said no gimmicks and we just played straight because we didn't throw puke on it. We don't want to be known for just being a gimmicky band that's going to get naked and throw shit. Yeah. But it will happen occasionally. It'll happen every once in a while. Fair enough. All right. A quick break from the interview to jump into some more music by the fine folks at Hour of the Wolf.

We're going to play a track off of their split with Ludax. We're going to play the track Overload because it's probably my favorite track that they've done to date. I don't know. They got, you know, great, great songs, but I love that one. It's pretty phenomenal. So enjoy. And we're going to finish up the interview. Not a lot of talking this week. Keeping it short. And, you know, preparation for the Winter Olympics. Speed skating, I guess. I don't know. But we'll be back in just a little bit after this track and the rest of the interview. All right. Bye.

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It was cool because some kids were bummed out. You know, the first thing we said is we're not throwing anything and we're not getting naked and we're here to play. Some guy was like, I was hoping to see some dong. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. This is bullshit. Maybe next year. Maybe next year. Maybe dong will come back next year. Maybe if you buy him some drinks. I don't know. Yeah, I had to drink about 10 beers before that naked set. Yeah, I was going to say, you guys are here drinking now. You're drinking whiskey and beer and no one's getting naked. It's after the set. Except for Lance. I'm drinking water. Lance is being totally responsible. Lance is drinking a lot of water. Do you ever drink? No, I don't do any drugs except coffee, caffeine.

I'm not one of those guys who's like, you're fucking caffeine. You don't not straight edge. It's garbage. It's one of the most addicted drugs in America. It's fucking fantastic. I'm on it. Coffee is amazing. Lance gets moody without his coffee. That's all right. Almost half of our band does not partake in any substances. You're just totally awesome that way. I like that. Half and half. I respect that. Three and two. Three party, two non. Two party. Yeah. Five party. I party in my own way. Party without the alcohol. Yeah. Hey, I'm okay with that. I'm not here to judge. All right. Moving forward. Moving on. Yes, moving on. I know. He's just like. Keep the momentum, man. Let's keep going. I've had enough of your bullshit banter.

What's the next question? Next question. Presented by a fan. Best Hour of the Wolf cover. The two that they presented were Party Hard and I Want to Be Your Dog. But if there's one, because you guys did the nerve agents tonight, one that's not on that list that you think is better. We've done a million covers. It depends if they're. Are we talking recorded or are we just talking? The ones that you. In terms of your version. How you guys feel. Oh, our version of. Yeah. Because I hate to have you guys judge recorded and feel like you have to rank these people. But how are you doing? I. We should just go around and see because I'm not. What do you think?

I don't know. Shit, man. Probably. I think I Want to Be Your Dog is the most fun I've had doing a live cover. I really love that song. I think that and the Agent Orange cover, Bloodstains, is fun, too.

My favorite is My War. I was just about to take that back. Oh, yeah. That was. That's one of the best Black Flag songs ever. We did a tour where we played that song and we told ourselves, anytime you play My War, you have to fucking play My War. And we would really hurt. Don't have a lesson. We would really hurt ourselves. Like, I would be bleeding and hurt by it. I changed my vote. Yeah. My War has won over. And it just felt so cool to be playing a Black Flag song. I mean, you'd be seeing kids with their Black Flag tattoos and their shirts and it'd be awesome to know that you're playing that song as hard as you can and those kids aren't singing along or doing anything. They probably don't even know the song.

And it felt so good to just be fucking destroying and playing. What band made this shitty song? I had my Fender Showman reverb amp on that tour and it was extremely loud. So at the end it was like. Yeah. It was awesome. I can't tell you, though, the greatest feeling inside when you're pointing at a kid wearing a Black Flag shirt who doesn't know the song and you say, you're one of them. That's the best feeling ever. That bums me out a little bit that there were kids who didn't know it. It's all of them. We've done all over the world. Well, yeah. I mean, I imagine there's any band you're going to do a cover song. There were a few kids that didn't know it. There were times where kids definitely knew it, though, too, and would punch me in the face and take the mic.

I'm going to sing this. Fuck you. No, it bums me out because I saw Rollins on the West Memphis 3 when they did the whole Black Flag cover set. And he was like, out of all the Black Flag songs, he's like, this is one of my favorite. It's one of the greatest songs ever written. And he tore into my war. And I was like, that's absolutely one of my favorite Black Flag songs. And so it kind of kills me a little bit to be like, oh, God, there's kids who have the t-shirts who don't know what it is. But it is what it is, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people are going to think that's part of the music. It evolves. People know what it is. They get really into it and then they get out of it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you're turning the mic off.

No. Are they all working? Soundgye Nairman asked. It's OK. No, no. Soundgye Nairman's doing his job. He's making sure all the mics are working. You're keeping up with what I won't. All right. So moving in to fan questions. Someone asked the best recipe for fake blood. I don't know why. That's what we're saying about fake blood. We don't use fake blood. Yeah, we've never used fake blood once. Here's what happens. Zombies. Yeah. I don't know. That was too insane for it to be fake, by the way. Here's all I have to say about... I'm insulted by that fucking guy. Here's all I have to say about fake, fake blood. Don't use fake blood. Cut it. Yeah, our friends in Zombies. I'm not lying to you. You guys, I want you to be my witness.

Look at his ass. Here's what I have to say about fake blood. Look at his ass. I got $3.58 in my pocket. That right there is not even enough to buy fake blood or the recipe for fake blood. You have a whole tin of caramel corn in the van. Yeah. Listen. I don't feel sorry for you. Hold on. Listen, why would we use or try to use fake blood when that shit costs money? You have real blood in your body. Yeah, all we have to do is smash our face and get some free blood. And when you're playing songs like My War or any of our songs that we enjoy playing... That finger should not bend that way, by the way. Yeah. See, I have real blood on my body. I don't know. Maybe kids think that we're using fake blood. We don't... Begin with the gimmicks.

Yeah, it's a gimmick. We don't try to bleed. Sometimes we bleed. Every band bleeds. It's a normal thing. You see all these bands. Yeah, it can be trendy for guys to hit themselves in the face of the microphone. But sometimes they want to. So let them do it. Like, who cares? We bleed fake blood. Blah, blah, blah. Fair enough. These were what were presented to me. Yeah, I'm sorry. I feel really bad. These are what people like... Have we ever... I don't think... Honestly, we have never used... We've never used fake blood at any time in my life. I've never used fake blood. We're trying to increase listener participation, and I feel really bad that I just asked you... Our listeners suck. Yeah, our listeners are fucking assholes.

I'm sorry. I'm the listener that offered that question.

You know who you are. Yeah, seriously. That guy's like, I listen to every show. I'm just kidding. No, it's okay. They can use fake blood all they want. They can. All right. Yeah, they can bring fake blood to the show. What's the fucking recipe for fake cum? Addison. Ask guar. Aww. Or fake shit. Or do they use real shit? I would imagine. Moving on. The shitapult. Is that real shit, or is that fake shit? I would imagine guar has enough time to make real shit. I'd like to know the recipe for fake shit. If you're in a bus all day, you can make some real shit. I don't want to ask the last fan question. A fan asks which one of you guys is considered the hottest. Which one of you guys gets the most girls? I can tell you right now, not me in any way.

Oh, I think you're all right. Well, thank you. Is this interview going to be in 17 Magazine? Yes. It's Tiger Beat. Yeah. We don't fuck around. Which one is the hottest? Grandpa. Dude, they swear to God, they're like, I know that girls and guys fight over these. dudes, so. No. No, that's not. Girls and guys. I'm not fucking around. It's not some kind of homophobic thing. My honest answer, I think Addison is. I would say Dustin by far. Wouldn't you agree, Addison? Most girls, at least most girls will say, just letting you know your guitar player is high, and I'll say, yeah, news to me. I hear that from a lot of girls. Go tell them yourself. She's like, can you pass that along? It's like, yeah, come up to me and tell me that.

He's pretty good looking. It's the whole sideburns into the beard. You don't have sideburns. I know. You look like Wolverine, but if you finish the beard. No, he's got nice features. It's mostly actually. High cheekbones. I don't know. I think it's because I'm not intimidating, so guys just won't talk to me. How's it going? That's why we have you here for an interview. I would still say that Dustin is by far, like, he gets the most girls. Dustin's the only one in the band that's had a threesome as far as I know. That's true, yeah. That is high class, by the way. Multiple? He's had fucking fivesomes. Grandpa, by the way, is his nickname. The only threesome I... Listen. Matt did kiss my back. The only threesome I've ever had are two Hot Pockets and me.

And I'm talking about actual Hot Pockets. You're talking about pepperoni pizza flavored, right? If I have a twosome, I consider it a great night, so I'm not going to cap on. I'm not going to insult anybody's sexual experience here. I'm sorry. The fan question section. Yeah, the fan question. Moving on, Don. This is the first time we did fan questions. You should do that for them. I think it's cool. I think it's good. I think it's cool, except that all your fans are bullshit assholes. So other than that, it's a really good idea. Fuck you, fans. You should have a haters question. Like, I want you guys... If I ever get to do an interview with you guys again, we should have a section where there's just people who hate us.

Like the guy that said... I'm pretty sure our fans don't like anything. I liked your band until you thought you were rock stars because we smashed an instrument. Oh, who was it that said that? I don't know, some kid. I liked you guys until you put out that second AP and then you guys got all overproduced and auto-tuned. No auto-tunes. No auto-tunes. No, no auto-tunes. The two most... That was purposefully... That was the third fan question. Why do you use auto-tunes? Was that another one? No, no, no. The two most overused terms of punk rock are overproduced and auto-tunes. It's purposefully done. It's kind of like a share. It's a share effect. We're going for that. It's just reverb. It's not auto-tune. We're going for that share thing.

Share. She pioneered it. Dude, if you believe in Life After Love is the greatest song of this decade. I actually think that song is pretty good. It's a classic. If I could cover it, I would. All right. Moving on. Moving forward. All right. Last question. Anything we're going to wrap up? Anything you guys want to plug? Websites, yourself, tours, other bands, labels? We have another band, Hot Skin. I know. If you want to check it out. Those guys played tonight. They were a bunch of assholes. Me, Addison. Fuck those guys. Me, Pat, Addison, and Hank, and Dustin Lance. And myspace.com slash Hot Skin Cold Cash. Hot Skin Cold Cash. If you want to check it out. I think Cloak Dagger's new record is fucking awesome. Oh, yeah. That's a great record.

It's really good. I have it. That's good. Lost Ark. And the first record is fucking incredible, too. Yeah. We are. Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are. There's not much we really want to plug for ourselves, but for people to just start hyping us up real big on the internet. Post some shit on message boards. You just make us seem bigger than we are, so that when we go to other towns, everyone's like, what? What? Here they are. How are the wolves? And you don't have to go to our shows. Just get online. Make it happen. Just make other people go to the shows. We just want to, you know.

We hired a lawyer because we want to get big. We're going to change our name to The Shot. Inside jokes. That doesn't work. Well, actually, we plan on our next release being a full-length album. I'm serious about that. We've got three EPs and a split. I'll wait for the full-length. I don't even know if people would want to sit through an out of the full-length. We're going to change our name from Shot Start to The Shot. No. If you think about it, think about any full-length that you have. You kind of get halfway through it, and then you start to forget that you're listening to something, and then you remember. It's like James Brown said. Every once in a while, there's a solid full-length. Like James Brown said, always leave them wanting more.

And I think if Outer Wolf does a full-length, we can maybe do it. We can maybe pull it off. But I'm afraid that we're going to get to the point where we'll ride it, and we'll think it's amazing, and be in love with it. But people always forget what they're doing. I think especially humans today do not have an attention span where shit. Well, unfortunately. And it's better to hit them hard and fast than get the fuck out of there. And I think maybe people are playing too long of sets, and they're – We come too quick. I think – no, you go – The record we just put out is 10 minutes on the money. No, think about it. Think about it. You've got bands who take 45 minutes to set their drums up on stage, and then they play for too long.

And even if everybody's there to see them, people will be bored halfway through it because they're playing too long. I think people need to start just fucking going in and getting out of there. Yeah. I respect that. I don't know. I just feel like you don't have to overplay. Leave them wanting more. Absolutely. Not to name names, but you guys – I know you've worked with Comadre. They put you on the mixtape, and the first time I saw Comadre. But when they finished, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Is that – they're done? They're like, that's the last song, and they just fucking start packing up. And I'm like, are you fucking – And you wanted more. And you wanted – You saw – you watched them? The first time I saw Darkest Hour, I think they played three songs.

And they played three songs. It was either three or four songs. It was like a 12-minute set. I saw a band from San Diego called La Shock. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember that band? Yeah. And they seriously fucking took 45 minutes to set up and played a set that was maybe seven and a half minutes. And they were like – people were clapping after something like, fuck you, fuck you. This is over. Maybe seven and a half minutes, and they were like, fuck you. I mean, I understand. I respect that. If we pull up to a venue and they're forcing kids to pay like 15 bucks to get in, we're not going to play for two songs and be done. But it – I don't know. I think 20 minutes is a good amount of time. Oh, yeah. Short burst of passion.

This isn't Metallica. Yeah. Well, I feel more and more like, especially in this day and age, people feel like you've got to pay for an hour and a half. And some bands can – I don't know. I don't want to say they can do it because there's been very few that I've seen for that length of time that have been like, this is a great start to finish. But some bands do it. But if that's not what you want to do, don't do it. Well, I mean, I don't – I want to do a full length. I'm just saying if we put it together and it's one of those things where it doesn't have the power all the way through, then we're going to turn that into two EPs.

You may not expect an hour of the whole full length in the next year, but maybe – yeah, maybe two EPs. Or we'll put a full length out on two discs so that you're forced to at least take one disc out and then you make the decision to hear the rest. I like that. That's the power of the – yeah. Well, that's the power of the vinyl record. You have to flip the vinyl record unless you're like super lazy. Power of the wolf. Power of the wolf. All right. We're going to let you guys go. Thank you, guys. Thank you, you guys. So much for taking the time. Our pleasure. I don't know which – do you guys have more planned on the tour? This tour is just a weekend thing. We're just coming out to California to play shows because every time – There's pretty much a favor to your state.

Hey, we're excited. We're happy you made it. Every time we go on any tour and then you look online, all you read is, Our the Wolf never plays California. And so we did this. He hasn't been here a lot lately. Well, yeah, everywhere. I think every band knows this. Kids will say you never play there. Wherever you play the most frequently. That's because kids don't actually want to go to the shows. They just want to – Power of the Wolf never played my living room. If it's on a Saturday night and there's like their friend's band is playing, then they'll definitely go. Then they'll be there for sure. Like, what the fuck? What do you guys need to play? What the fuck was that band? There was some band that opened for – What the fuck is that band?

Streetline Manifesto. And there were fucking like 90 kids there. And they were just this local band. And there were 90 kids there with their fucking T-shirt on. And they were super stoked. And that band played and they stopped. And everybody found it. Story of my life. It was really nice before. It was super weird. We're the band that's always after that band. Aww. We're the band that shows up. That's true. That's on tour and we tell the promoter, do we really need to play after the local? It seems like a lot of kids here are here to see the local band. No, dude. They'll stick around. We'll tell them. They'll hang out for you guys. Yeah, no. We always go to places and be like, wow, this is too good to be true. There's a lot of kids.

And it's too good to be true. It is. Aww. Well, hopefully. Boo-hoo. So tell me. Get online. Get on the internet. Kingman, Arizona. We will try. Just make us seem bigger than we are. Come on, America. You're huge. You played fucking Submission tonight. There were hundreds of kids there. Yeah, we started a riot. It was ridiculous. That was insane. There's like 400 people there. Tens of thousands of dollars of damage. All right. Well, I want to thank all of you for taking the time. Thank you. Especially because it's well after the show. And you guys are where you're going to be sleeping tonight. So thank you for taking the time. Oh, my watch stopped. Thank you for talking to us and not going to sleep. Addison's watch stopped.

He's trying to say thanks and goodbye. And you're going on about a time. Doodaloo, dude. I understand. I'm not that interesting. Don't worry. But thank you. Thank you for interviewing us. We appreciate it. Nobody wants to interview us ever. So we're stoked. Thank you, guys. Thanks for taking the time for this interview, Lance. Good luck with the tour and everything you got going on. Sounds like fireworks. Yeah, it sounds like we're getting shut down. Yeah, it's EPA. We're getting shut down. Time to go. Environmental protection agency. Thank you for the interview, Lance. And doodaloo, dude. Doodaloo. All right. Thank you guys all for listening this week to our show with Hour of the Wolf. Thank the guys from Hour of the Wolf for doing it.

And thank the guys from Comadre for letting us come in to their studio slash house to do the interview. That place is really kind of amazing for being in East Palo Alto, which for everything Palo Alto is, it has Stanford. It has lush shopping centers. It has amazing estates. East Palo Alto is not. East Palo Alto is really, really ghetto, though it does have a giant Ikea. But in the middle of East Palo Alto, in like kind of a warehouse, the folks from Comadre made a pretty awesome recording studio slash living area. And it's pretty awesome. It's possibly the only thing in East Palo Alto I ever want to go to again. Maybe the Ikea. I don't know, man. It's kind of hard to find a cheap build-it-yourself bookshelf.

But Ikea's got them. Anyhow, thank Hour of the Wolf. Again, so much for taking the time. We will be back next week with more interviews and all of that. Conan will not. I'm calling it right now. We're recording this before any such announcement has been made, so maybe in two weeks I'll be proven wrong. I'll give away a little secret. Today is actually MLK Day. We're recording it a week before the show is actually released, and we're going to make our Conan predictions now. That's right, in honor of Martin Luther King, because that's what he would have wanted. The very opposite of MLK is Conan O'Brien. Yeah, you don't get any whiter than Conan. I believe at one point Martin Luther King said, I have a dream that one day my birthday will be used as a day off of work in which people will make podcast predictions of white talk show television hosts.

It's really the ultimate accumulation of everything you worked for. But I'm going to say NBC is going to buy out his no-compete clause on his contract, and he will not be on television for three years. Wow. It's bleak, but that's my prediction right now. I hope he goes to Fox. I hope he goes to Fox, too. But I think NBC, after he's trash-talked him, is fucking scorched-earth policy right now. So if you have predictions on what you think is going to happen to Conan O'Brien, or if it's already happened, and you just want to write us and be like, ha-ha, dickweed, that's not what happened, send us an email, soundscenerevolution at gmail.com. We're on MySpace, but I never fucking check MySpace anymore, unless I'm looking for 10-year-olds.

Which is not as much as you would think. Like, I hesitate to say the phrase never, but certainly not with great regularity. Anyhow, so there's that. We're on Twitter, twitter.com slash soundscenerev, and all the good internet sites. Anyhow, we're going to wrap it up with one more track from Hour of the Wolf, off of their Obsolete EP. Sorry, I blanked there. We're going to play Fact or Fiction. I hope you enjoy it. My prediction, Conan, NBC's going to buy him out for three years, no compete. SoundGuyNairman's, he's going to go to Fox. I hope he's right, but we'll see. We're going to, for right now, we're just going to have to buy it our time and wait. Also, Haiti, still pretty fucked up.

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